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alien
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Post subject: Re: Rocky and its sequels  Posted: 31 Oct 2015, 02:44 |
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blam1 wrote: The director for all 5 of the Rocky films shot them Open Matte 1.37:1. I'm not going to get into the pros/cons of letterboxing versus open matte transfers, but I suspect when the first 4 films were issued in 1990 as "remastered" and the films reverted from CBS/Fox to MGM, I suspect the director did an open-matte frame rather than cropping to 1.85. Interesting, but regardless of the letterboxing, Rocky on LD still got AC-3 (and I'm presuming more time and money was spent on the remastering), and as stated on DVD and BD Rocky got special features and Mastered in 4K, not to mention steelbook re-release packaging, where as the sequels got none of these things.
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alien
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Post subject: Re: Rocky and its sequels  Posted: 31 Oct 2015, 02:48 |
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substance wrote: There is another rocky film coming, its called "creed" Yep, and the trailers make it look better than I was expecting.
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Post subject: Re: Rocky and its sequels  Posted: 31 Oct 2015, 04:36 |
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The reason is simple. Rocky is an American masterpiece like Taxi Driver or Annie Hall, and Rockys II-x range form mediocre to terrible like American Ninja or Witchcraft. This, in a rare turn of events, is actually not only the opinion of myself, but also most critics and the public at large. This is reflected in sales, so they skimp. As much as I'd like a 3 hour documentary on how they made that robot, it's just not in the cards, fiscally speaking, I'm afraid. 
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Post subject: Re: Rocky and its sequels  Posted: 31 Oct 2015, 12:01 |
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signofzeta wrote: The reason is simple. Rocky is an American masterpiece like Taxi Driver or Annie Hall, and Rockys II-x range form mediocre to terrible like American Ninja or Witchcraft. This, in a rare turn of events, is actually not only the opinion of myself, but also most critics and the public at large. This is reflected in sales, so they skimp. Perfectly put  .
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blam1
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Post subject: Re: Rocky and its sequels  Posted: 02 Nov 2015, 19:00 |
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alien wrote: blam1 wrote: The director for all 5 of the Rocky films shot them Open Matte 1.37:1. I'm not going to get into the pros/cons of letterboxing versus open matte transfers, but I suspect when the first 4 films were issued in 1990 as "remastered" and the films reverted from CBS/Fox to MGM, I suspect the director did an open-matte frame rather than cropping to 1.85. Interesting, but regardless of the letterboxing, Rocky on LD still got AC-3 (and I'm presuming more time and money was spent on the remastering), and as stated on DVD and BD Rocky got special features and Mastered in 4K, not to mention steelbook re-release packaging, where as the sequels got none of these things. All true. But I also suspect there was some of the "death of LaserDisc" involved. MGM had plans to several more Bond films in AC-3, but the bottom fell out.
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Post subject: Re: Rocky and its sequels  Posted: 06 Nov 2015, 06:34 |
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signofzeta wrote: The reason is simple. Rocky is an American masterpiece like Taxi Driver or Annie Hall, and Rockys II-x range form mediocre to terrible like American Ninja or Witchcraft. This, in a rare turn of events, is actually not only the opinion of myself, but also most critics and the public at large. This is reflected in sales, so they skimp. As much as I'd like a 3 hour documentary on how they made that robot, it's just not in the cards, fiscally speaking, I'm afraid.  Late to the party again. I who heartedly agree with sign. While I will add that I personally get entertainment value from the later Rocky movies, the first Rocky movie is legitimately a great film, in my (and probably a lot of people's) opinion anyway.
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alien
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Post subject: Re: Rocky and its sequels  Posted: 08 Nov 2015, 06:25 |
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elieb wrote: so even though it's listed as "P&S" it's an open matte/pan and scan hybrid? If Rocky 2 to 5 are open matte presentations on LD I think that means you can zoom in on the image for it to fill a 16:9 screen and not crop anything in the process.
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Post subject: Re: Rocky and its sequels  Posted: 04 Dec 2015, 21:41 |
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I've seen Rocky I-V on several occasions and it's not surprising I gets all the love. All though I enjoy them all  I had missed the creed movie coming, amazing!
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Post subject: Re: Rocky and its sequels  Posted: 08 Dec 2015, 17:21 |
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signofzeta wrote: As much as I'd like a 3 hour documentary on how they made that robot, it's just not in the cards, fiscally speaking, I'm afraid.  The robot teasing Paulie is priceless though  Rocky IV is the best of the sequels though. A wonderful guilty pleasure, on the order of a Golan/Globus Cannon movie in unintentional comedy, IV has it all from a James Brown floorshow that leaves Drago in total shock  to epic montages like "No Easy Way Out" (it gives Scarface's "Push it to the Limit" a run for the money!), and utterly insane 80's Cold War jingoism with a spectacular finale which must be seen to be believed. My favorite summary of the film is the utterly random one DirecTV uses: "Champ Rocky Balboa trains in Siberia for a bout against a lab-tested Soviet with a 2000-psi punch" "In the burning heart, about to burst..."
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