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disclord
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?  Posted: 01 Mar 2013, 19:32 |
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elieb wrote: this wasn't listed on the in70mm.com list of movies shown with dolby stereo. no blowup existed. You, and the In70mm database, are wrong - Top Gun was indeed released in 70mm. It was a Super35 film and the 70mm prints were struck with a 2:1 aspect ratio. It was released in 70mm on May 16, 1986 and over one hundred 70mm prints were made. It was also a Format 43 release, which means Stereo Surrounds. Dolby A-Type Noise Reduction was used on the 70mm prints because Dolby SR (Format 46) was still in its early stages of testing. The trailers attached to the 70mm print of Top Gun were; The Golden Child teaser, Ruthless People and Deadly Friend.
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?  Posted: 01 Mar 2013, 22:25 |
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disclord wrote: elieb wrote: this wasn't listed on the in70mm.com list of movies shown with dolby stereo. no blowup existed. You, and the In70mm database, are wrong - Top Gun was indeed released in 70mm. It was a Super35 film and the 70mm prints were struck with a 2:1 aspect ratio. It was released in 70mm on May 16, 1986 and over one hundred 70mm prints were made. It was also a Format 43 release, which means Stereo Surrounds. Dolby A-Type Noise Reduction was used on the 70mm prints because Dolby SR (Format 46) was still in its early stages of testing. The trailers attached to the 70mm print of Top Gun were; The Golden Child teaser, Ruthless People and Deadly Friend. But....he's talking about Beverly Hills Cop?
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disclord
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?  Posted: 01 Mar 2013, 22:34 |
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flcl4evr wrote: disclord wrote: elieb wrote: this wasn't listed on the in70mm.com list of movies shown with dolby stereo. no blowup existed. You, and the In70mm database, are wrong - Top Gun was indeed released in 70mm. It was a Super35 film and the 70mm prints were struck with a 2:1 aspect ratio. It was released in 70mm on May 16, 1986 and over one hundred 70mm prints were made. It was also a Format 43 release, which means Stereo Surrounds. Dolby A-Type Noise Reduction was used on the 70mm prints because Dolby SR (Format 46) was still in its early stages of testing. The trailers attached to the 70mm print of Top Gun were; The Golden Child teaser, Ruthless People and Deadly Friend. But....he's talking about Beverly Hills Cop? My total bad - UGH! I have no idea why I replaced BHC with Top Gun - I went looking for BHC and somehow 'switched' to Top Gun. How embarrassing! Well, I won't delete the post because I did write it and so I won't hide my huge blunder. Sorry Elieb, I was totally mistaken and I apologize.
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?  Posted: 04 Mar 2013, 06:44 |
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Watching Invasion of the Body Snatchers, one of my all time favorite movies!
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?  Posted: 05 Mar 2013, 04:17 |
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cholkavich wrote: Watching Invasion of the Body Snatchers, one of my all time favorite movies! Which version, original or '78 remake? And if original, is it the Criterion version? That one is a great LaserDisc, in content, transfer and 3M pressing. Back when 3M meant pristine discs pressed with no defects - then things kinds fell apart for them starting in 1986/87.
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?  Posted: 05 Mar 2013, 05:08 |
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The original of course. Its the criterion collection with the green cover. I was lucky enough to see a screening of it here where they had Kevin McCarthy doing a Q&A after the showing. It was a few years right before he died.
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?  Posted: 05 Mar 2013, 05:19 |
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cholkavich wrote: The original of course. Its the criterion collection with the green cover. I was lucky enough to see a screening of it here where they had Kevin McCarthy doing a Q&A after the showing. It was a few years right before he died. I have the original Criterion CAV with the silver cover. How cool to see a screening with McCarthy doing Q & A! You are VERY lucky! Since the film was shot 4x3 and NEVER meant to be cropped to widescreen, I wish someone would release a true original aspect ratio disc of the film.
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?  Posted: 05 Mar 2013, 06:03 |
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rein-o wrote: so was it shot twice like seven brides for seven brothers? i see that there was a superscope or something of invasion of the body snatchers. No, it was filmed 4x3 and cropped to 2:1 to make it SuperScope, which was the forerunner to Super35, but Invasion was NEVER meant to be cropped or shown wide. The 4x3 video versions are pan and scan transfers of the SuperScope crop which was already a major crop of the original - so see the problem? Less than 30% of the image winds up on screen with P/S transfers. The director never ever meant it to be seen wide, RKO did it after the fact because widescreen was booming and they wanted their own product in theaters but had none being filmed. So they cropped existing films that were just wrapping production. As a side note, SuperScope has a 2:1 aspect ratio and SuperScope 235 had a 2.35:1 ratio. later, by eliminating the area reserved for the soundtrack on the negative, the total film frame was made larger by about 20% and Super35 was created.
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?  Posted: 05 Mar 2013, 06:31 |
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disclord wrote: rein-o wrote: so was it shot twice like seven brides for seven brothers? i see that there was a superscope or something of invasion of the body snatchers. No, it was filmed 4x3 and cropped to 2:1 to make it SuperScope, which was the forerunner to Super35, but Invasion was NEVER meant to be cropped or shown wide. The 4x3 video versions are pan and scan transfers of the SuperScope crop which was already a major crop of the original - so see the problem? Less than 30% of the image winds up on screen with P/S transfers. The director never ever meant it to be seen wide, RKO did it after the fact because widescreen was booming and they wanted their own product in theaters but had none being filmed. So they cropped existing films that were just wrapping production. As a side note, SuperScope has a 2:1 aspect ratio and SuperScope 235 had a 2.35:1 ratio. later, by eliminating the area reserved for the soundtrack on the negative, the total film frame was made larger by about 20% and Super35 was created. Quote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_o ... _SnatchersWanger saw the final cut in December 1955 and protested the use of the Superscope format.[5] Its use had been a part of the early plans for the film, but the first print was not made until December. Wanger felt that the film lost sharpness and detail. Siegel had originally shot Invasion of the Body Snatchers in the 1.85:1 aspect ratio. Superscope was a post-production lab process designed to create an anamorphic print from non-anamorphic source material that would be projected at an aspect ratio of 2.00:1.[5][8] So what did the bluray end up as? Beaver has some shots. http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReview ... tchers.htm
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?  Posted: 05 Mar 2013, 08:01 |
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"Olive Films released a Blu-ray version of the film in 2012 in the Superscope Aspect Ratio." Also time for this: 
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?  Posted: 05 Mar 2013, 18:02 |
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This scene with Ernie Hudsons line "Gone!? b**ch we're still here!" always catches me off guard and cracks me up. http://youtu.be/BiLtPTQPr3Q
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?  Posted: 06 Mar 2013, 00:27 |
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bigrob wrote: Love Leviathan! seen it so many times! got the Korean DVD with 5.1 audio. was looking forward to getting the German Blu-ray but turns out it was nothing but a bad DVD upscaled  Yeah the Blu-Ray was horrible. Apparently the scan used for the Blu-Ray was an old foreign bootleg transfer full of compression, artfacting, macroblocking etc, etc.. They basically took that crappy scan, pumped up the brightness levels, applied a s**t load of DNR and slapped it onto to the Blu-Ray. The saturation takes on a strange pink tint too which was never apart of the orignal coulour timing. The DVD by MGM is better in every single way. Hell the Blu-Ray is so awful maybe even the Laserdisc looks better as well.. Look at these screenshots - http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleiche/comparison.php?art=full&cap1=17481&cap2=17489&cID=1440&lossless=&image=5
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?  Posted: 06 Mar 2013, 03:03 |
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cholkavich wrote: This scene with Ernie Hudsons line "Gone!? b**ch we're still here!" always catches me off guard and cracks me up. http://youtu.be/BiLtPTQPr3QI've watched the region 1 DVD at least 150 times or so since I bought it a few years ago. I saw this at the cinema in Dolby SR when it opened, but didn't get to UK until 1990. No "Leviathan" NTSC laserdisc on eBay at present. Looks like I should have bought that USA NTSC one last year. Well plenty more Leviathan laserdisc in the ocean. 
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