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Total Recall (1990)
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The Sound Spectrum and the Mixing is Absolutely Terrific, honestly!
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kingpin wrote:
Total Recall (1990)
Japanese THX Version

The Sound Spectrum and the Mixing is Absolutely Terrific, honestly!


Of course it is, LD was made for discerning people in a time of discernment, the Japanese being the most discerning of all.

Compare that to Blu Ray, made in a time of idiots, who wouldn't know MAXIMUM RESOLUTION and WOW LOUD, from any kind of quality.
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70mm film presentations in a cinema - that is a thing that is not likely to happen anytime soon here.

I do miss a proper film presentation (with a nice clean print!!!) but good prints are now quite scarce & where they are now is another story.


Hmmm. A whole season of them here, now. 6 films, 32 screenings: https://www.princecharlescinema.com/seasons/70mm-presentations/


Hi nextwednesday,

Sounds rather good but that cinema is around 690 miles from where I am.

The "proper" cinemas are now very few & far between.

The Playhouse in Edinburgh has 70mm projection equipment but that's it for Scotland - the GFT (Glasgow Film Theatre) has looked at 70mm presentations but nothing ever came of it.

The sad thing is that the costs to fit (or re-fit) the equipment is not as high as some think but it does not really add up as the presentations are limited & unless there is backing from outside sources it is highly unlikely to happen anytime soon.

The gutting of so many cinemas when they closed was rather barbaric but that was the way it was, very sad. This was done to prevent listing orders being placed on them. Many "Save Our Cinema" campaigns were mounted but it was often too little too late with developers moving in very quickly to render them useless as cinemas - removing projection equipment (fairly easily replaceable) was the usual practice but the removal of the seating was the killer move, very costly to purchase/refit.

Enjoy the 70mm presentations.

Are the prints you are watching unfaded (still bright/fresh) & in fairly good condition?

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690 miles?? Do you live in Shetland?

I've seen just one of the Prince Charles 70mm presentations so far, namely 2001: ASO. Yes, it's a good bright print although the first reel is slightly dirty and there is a noticeable 1-2s snip just before the intermission. A great experience. I'll be keeping my options open for the other films. Perhaps Dune, although it's not a particular favourite.

And of course, 70mm screenings are meat and drink for the BFI (formerly NFT) on the South Bank.
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forper wrote:
kingpin wrote:
Total Recall (1990)
Japanese THX Version

The Sound Spectrum and the Mixing is Absolutely Terrific, honestly!


Of course it is, LD was made for discerning people in a time of discernment, the Japanese being the most discerning of all.

Compare that to Blu Ray, made in a time of idiots, who wouldn't know MAXIMUM RESOLUTION and WOW LOUD, from any kind of quality.

Idiot.
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Total Recall (1990)
Japanese THX Version

The Sound Spectrum and the Mixing is Absolutely Terrific, honestly!


Of course it is, LD was made for discerning people in a time of discernment, the Japanese being the most discerning of all.

Compare that to Blu Ray, made in a time of idiots, who wouldn't know MAXIMUM RESOLUTION and WOW LOUD, from any kind of quality.

Idiot.


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Like you can talk. You have a CRT TV that is set on some kind of dymatic/vivid torch mode, and you see all these bright colours and grain from an LD where in reality what you are seeing is a washed out, artificial image with a lot of video noise. You have no right to talk about quality, and you have no idea how film looks like.
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alien wrote:
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Like you can talk. You have a CRT TV that is set on some kind of dymatic/vivid torch mode, and you see all these bright colours and grain from an LD where in reality what you are seeing is a washed out, artificial image with a lot of video noise. You have no right to talk about quality, and you have no idea how film looks like.


My friend who's into cameras explained that my camera that I took the pics of Bladerunner with is set wrong for what I was I trying to do. Basically it was set to amplify the light (ISO? or something was at one extreme or another) so it wasn't an accurate representation of what my TV actually displays, which is perfection.
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 Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?
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Excellent screen shot there.

Really shows the elegant, subtle contrast and real feel grittiness of laserdisc.
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Blu-Ray is the more all round successor to Laserdisc than DVD was.


Why are you here then?


Why are YOU here? What is your deal? LD is dead, can't it have a successor? Or do you just never watch any movies made in the last 15 years? The Life Aquatic isn't on LD. So how do I watch it? Do I buy the BR and film it running with a PXL2000 while averting my eyes so I can watch the born again perfection of analog on tape later?

Nobody is going to fault anyone simply for being weird on this forum. I have a big CRT too, although it's similar to yours in that it's loaded with digital stuff. I have over 600 LDs as well as thousands of dollars worth of analog synthesizers, hand made boutique guitar pedals, a half dozen turntables, and a record collection I've never tried to count or catalog. LD is my MAIN away of watching movies. But a new Gundam show came out and I want to see it so I buy the tiny 5" disc in a giant 12" since that's how they are being made now and that, apparently, means I should quit the forum.

We all know the home video business isn't what it used to be in the 80s/90s, it it's never coming back. Even if it should (it shouldn't) it isn't. Where you cross the line is when you tell people that they are assholes for enjoying a movie, especially when it was made a decade after LD died. Seriously, what do you expect people to do? There are people here twice your age who have spent $100,000 or more on home theater in their lives. People who actually contributed greatly to the economies of home theater during the golden age...and you're telling them they aren't welcome. Apparently we need more guys who bought all their stuff from garage sales decades later.


There's no way anyone can be hardcore enough for you, your anti-science outlook, or your worn out home theater. Go start your own forum for retrograde analog bullies who can't resist the urge to make wild religious claims that can never be proven. Let us know when you've set it up. I'm sure there will be a lot of LD, Beta, etc, probably a lot of 9/11 truther vids and videos explaining how the moon landings were faked and how the Trilateral Commision forced Bluray on us.
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 Post subject: Re: What have you been watching?
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Blu-Ray is the more all round successor to Laserdisc than DVD was.


Why are you here then?


Why are YOU here?


Because this is the LASERDISC DATABASE and I love laserdiscs.

What about YOU? Why are YOU here? Why don't you go to the BLURAY DATABASE and discuss how clean and grain free the latest release of Fantasia is?: "Why it looks just like it was made in 2016!, oooh it's so fantastic, now all our movies can look like they were made on computers! I love computers, they make everything so much better! oooh"

I'm over 40 years old and I bought my first laserdisc player in 1996. It was a used one sider from a pawn store and it didn't work so took it back and never had the money to buy another one until 2010. I was actually homeless during some of that time in between players. I did have the chance to buy an LD in 2000 when I was a student in Japan. It was the Macross movie CAV Perfect Collection for Y1000 used. I watched it on the LD players in my Japanese university's library.

I'm sorry I didn't have the money to sink $100,000 into LD in LD's heyday but I was poor as s**t. If I had money I would have spent it ALL on LDs. I loved it that much. But food and rent were bigger priorities. Now I have a job that pays above minimum wage I'm doing now what I always wanted to do back then. It's still the best stuff. Blu Ray sucks, everything after about 2003 sucks. And yes, I don't watch new movies unless I rent them on DVD. I don't mind DVD if I can't find it on laserdisc, it usually hasn't been too badly molested but Blu Ray is an Abluaration.

Go to BDDB.com. Blu Ray Dumbass Database.
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Forper. It is fine you didn't have the funds before and you are now full filling your dream. However there is no excuse for not keeping it civil. I honestly don't care what format you watch and your opinion will not change my preferences. I am kindly asking you a second time, stop calling people names.
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However there is no excuse for not keeping it civil. I honestly don't care what format you watch and your opinion will not change my preferences. I am kindly asking you a second time, stop calling people names.


Below is the quote from the last page. As you can see Substance, Alien started it by calling me an idiot first. I was just retaliating in kind.

Why don't you ask Alien to stop being abusive? Is it because he agrees with you? You're so bias and obviously DO care what formats I watch.

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Total Recall (1990)
Japanese THX Version

The Sound Spectrum and the Mixing is Absolutely Terrific, honestly!


Of course it is, LD was made for discerning people in a time of discernment, the Japanese being the most discerning of all.

Compare that to Blu Ray, made in a time of idiots, who wouldn't know MAXIMUM RESOLUTION and WOW LOUD, from any kind of quality.

Idiot.
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That's between you and alien, I suggest you take it to private messages. When you insulted Bluray watchers, you insulted me and many others.

Calling me biased? You obviously haven't been around here for long enough. You have no idea what kind of Laserdisc arsenal I have, both gear and media.

Opposed to your very under educated comments on analog signals and laserdiscs, I have two degrees in Electrical and Computer engineering to back my comments. This is not only directed at forper but all others flooding this forum with all incorrect information.
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Opposed to your very under educated comments on analog signals and laserdiscs, I have two degrees in Electrical and Computer engineering to back my comments.


That's where you tech guys just don't get it, it's about feeling not specs. Laserdisc feels right.

Case in point the CEO of Sony through its heyday was a classical music conductor, he understood music. He wasn't a scientist or an engineer. He knew what sounded good, not what looked better on paper. He would guide the development of products with emotion and feeling, not science. The engineers at Sony just had to figure out how to make what he wanted. That's the way it should be.

I'd respect your opinions more if you had a degree in film.
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Yes for that reason, Sony never produced any products that are considered audiophile grade(except very arguable few). Sony also invented CD, DVD and Bluray which are all %100 digital. Matter of fact, Sony is the worst offender in the laserdisc world. Sorry you picked a wrong example here.

Man, you have got no legs to stand on this. Please stop. Just go enjoy your Laserdiscs.
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Yes for that reason, Sony never produced any products that are considered audiophile grade(except very arguable few). Sony also invented CD, DVD and Bluray which are all %100 digital. Matter of fact, Sony is the worst offender in the laserdisc world. Sorry you picked a wrong example here.

Man, you have got no legs to stand on this. Please stop. Just go enjoy your Laserdiscs.


You misunderstood me. I'm not a digital vs analogue guy. Never said I was.

I'm in the EXPERIENCE camp. The FEELING camp. Do you understand that?

I prefer digital audio via PCM bitstream to all other audio. Therefore CD in my opinion was a great invention. Digital audio on LD is great, rich and open, I don't like the analogue tracks.

Redbook audio in the 1980s and 90s was used well, with great masters. These masters often surpass stuff that's put out on a technically superior format, SACD. It's very similar actually to the the LD vs BD debate. Just because something on paper is better absolutely doesn't mean the EXPERIENCE is better.

I prefer analogue VIDEO, yes. Blu Ray was brought out long after the heyday of Sony but it has been used badly by studios mainly to meet the idiotic demands of today's market. Sony hasn't changed as much as consumers have. I blame this on the influx of cheap Korean competitors and the "why pay more?" ethos that has developed.

Sony has made many audio components that are considered audiophile grade. Always has. Not just the ES line either. Some say Sony gear has a very "clinical" "detailed" sound lacking warmth and I like that sound personally, many other open minded people like myself do too.

The "Sony is crap" line is said by the same kind of people who think a Blu Ray is automatically better than an LD. They just believe the hype and can't think for themselves.
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