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deadlegion
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Post subject: Re: Movies you wish were on Laserdisc Posted: 01 Feb 2020, 09:23 |
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forper wrote: 2001: A Space Odyssey still looks better and more real than anything CGI. It's a 50 year old movie. Maybe it looks real if you've experimented with a lot of drugs. It is a good movie though.
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Post subject: Re: Movies you wish were on Laserdisc Posted: 02 Feb 2020, 01:10 |
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gypsy wrote: Space Odyssey and Lawrence of Arabia both look absolutely incredible for any time, let alone when they were filmed. No doubt about it. Exactly, what deadlegion said is just wrong, some effects don't age, they're perfect. To compare good practical effects with CGI is ridiculous anyway. Good practical effects don't end up being effects, they're real, right in front of your eyes. Kubrick built a giant hamster wheel to simulate the space station and weightlessness. So when you see them walking around the station, you're actually seeing the 1:1 station interior move and by changing camera angles they're moving effortlessly on every plane. It's not really an effect, there's no way that higher resolution could "reveal" it because inside the camera lense it's all "real".
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Post subject: Re: Movies you wish were on Laserdisc Posted: 02 Feb 2020, 01:25 |
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forper wrote: gypsy wrote: Space Odyssey and Lawrence of Arabia both look absolutely incredible for any time, let alone when they were filmed. No doubt about it. Exactly, what deadlegion said is just wrong, some effects don't age, they're perfect. To compare good practical effects with CGI is ridiculous anyway. Good practical effects don't end up being effects, they're real, right in front of your eyes. Kubrick built a giant hamster wheel to simulate the space station and weightlessness. So when you see them walking around the station, you're actually seeing the 1:1 station interior move and by changing camera angles they're moving effortlessly on every plane. It's not really an effect, there's no way that higher resolution could "reveal" it because inside the camera lense it's all "real". The stuff that gets exposed usually wasn't great to begin with it's just super clear on BD. I very much prefer practical effects as well.
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Post subject: Re: Movies you wish were on Laserdisc Posted: 02 Feb 2020, 06:10 |
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deadlegion wrote: I wasn't talking about set pieces like the example you described, there are even older movies that have impressive set design. I meant models and basic visual effects from the old days, and then the evolution of CGI. What Kubrik did was not just set design, it was EFFECTS, it makes you believe something that isn't really happening to the actors. Any time you do this it's EFFECTS. You said all effects look worse over time. Not Kubrik, many of his effects will never date because he was a genius and didn't rely on cheap crappy computers to fill in gaps, he did everything properly, a perfectionist. We need more perfectionists, not hacks like Peter Jackson who made one cult zombie movie in the '90s and then LOTR and is now considered a genius. Kubrik was an actual genius, Jackson is a hack in comparison and Jackson's effects, practical and CGI WILL date because he was lazy compared to someone like Kubrik. Admit it, some effects will never date.
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Post subject: Re: Movies you wish were on Laserdisc Posted: 02 Feb 2020, 16:55 |
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I sort of wish I were smart enough to write off the newer crap. Finished watching Avengers Gauntlet and End Game, wow I really wish I hadn't. I feel like that rule about insanity with films, if I keep watching these new films and expect them to get better but they don't
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Post subject: Re: Movies you wish were on Laserdisc Posted: 02 Feb 2020, 23:34 |
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forper wrote: We need more perfectionists, not hacks like Peter Jackson who made one cult zombie movie in the '90s and then LOTR and is now considered a genius. Kubrik was an actual genius, Jackson is a hack in comparison and Jackson's effects, practical and CGI WILL date because he was lazy compared to someone like Kubrik. Not to butt in...I'm going to defend The Frighteners, which I haven't fully seen in ages but I believe used CGI and certainly belongs to Peter Jackson: it still looks great. Never was much of a movie--of Jackson's oeuvre only Heavenly Creatures ever managed to be decent and it's straightforward as they come--but the fx are still slick for fifteen minutes till you turn it off. (that's all I've been able to revisit it). Kubrick vs Jackson is a pretty retarded soapbox, it's like beating a cripple with a stick. LotR looks terrible now because it always looked terrible because it was made without imagination or practical talent.
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Post subject: Re: Movies you wish were on Laserdisc Posted: 08 Feb 2020, 23:38 |
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Lord of the rings 1,2 & 3 Special editions and extended version box sets would have been amazing AC-3 Dolby Digital DTS ES The box sets of these ''There are no words to describe how good these would have been'' Kind Regards
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