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Author: | giannis [ 02 Dec 2018, 14:04 ] |
Post subject: | The Goonies releases |
hello everyone has any one notice that all goonies releases japan and us are all single disc two sides except [10JL-11474] which is a 2 disc 3 sides with gatefold. i wonder why since all releases have the same duration |
Author: | admin [ 02 Dec 2018, 14:27 ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Goonies releases |
Given the release time, I think the Laserdisc Wikipedia entry has the solution: As Pioneer introduced digital audio to LaserDisc in 1985, it further refined the CAA format. CAA55 was introduced in 1985 with a total playback capacity per side of 55 minutes 5 seconds, reducing the video capacity to resolve bandwidth issues with the inclusion of digital audio. At 114min. run-time, with extra logos and smart side-breaks, I think it couldn't fit on a single disc at that time. Goonies, The (1985) [11474 LV] had Analog audio only. Goonies, The (1985) [10JL-11474] added Digital Audio. Julien |
Author: | rein-o [ 02 Dec 2018, 16:33 ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Goonies releases |
Goonies, The (1985) [10JL-11474] Very odd, I didn't think this would have fallen into that situation. I was looking at my discs and any of the older ones that are longer in length and single discs are from 1987. |
Author: | giannis [ 02 Dec 2018, 19:57 ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Goonies releases |
If that’s the case why all the later digital releases including the last widescreen us one aren’t 2 discs? |
Author: | admin [ 02 Dec 2018, 19:59 ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Goonies releases |
giannis wrote: If that’s the case why all the later digital releases including the last widescreen us one aren’t 2 discs? Keep reading Wikipedia: By 1987, Pioneer had overcome the technical challenges and was able to once again encode in CAA60, allowing a total of 60 minutes 5 seconds. Julien |
Author: | giannis [ 02 Dec 2018, 20:19 ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Goonies releases |
Yes Julien but from what I read I assumed that they didn’t released digital audio discs till 87 because of this issue.searching on lddb chronologically there are very few digital discs from 85-86-87 era |
Author: | admin [ 02 Dec 2018, 21:08 ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Goonies releases |
That's also how I finally understood why some early 90's LDs were Analog audio when Digital Audio was available for years. Ex: Whitesnake: Live! (1983) [TOLW-3061] 55 minutes. Either they didn't want to make a new master and used the 80's initial release one. Or the original sound master was analog only. Or adding the digital audio tracks might have pushed the LD over 2 sides for a few minutes. Didn't make sense. Other similar release: Howard Jones: Like to Get to Know You Well (1983) [35P6-9012] (58min.) Julien |
Author: | signofzeta [ 02 Dec 2018, 21:46 ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Goonies releases |
Yeah, I guess it would have been hard to argue for a new 10 min side just for digital audio back when the vast majority of people barely knew it existed. I found this thread interesting. |
Author: | blam1 [ 03 Dec 2018, 21:16 ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Goonies releases |
As Julien mentions above, it was the additional of Digital Sound that pushed Goonies to 3 sides. It was true that Digital Sound could only be encoded as CAA55. Japan opted for adding a disc, where US dropped Digital Sound. This was the same for the original edition of "Back to the Future" as well. |
Author: | admin [ 04 Dec 2018, 11:28 ] |
Post subject: | Re: The Goonies releases |
blam1 wrote: This was the same for the original edition of "Back to the Future" as well. Indeed! Initial 1986 Japanese release 3 sides with Digital Audio: Back to the Future (1985) [SF098-1168] Initial 1986 USA release 2 sides with Analog-CX only: Back to the Future (1985) [40196] Japan 1989 re-release on 2 sides: Back to the Future (1985) [SF047-1586] Julien |
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