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Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead? Posted: 10 Jun 2020, 21:31 |
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ertoili wrote: My ultimate goal is to return to the true Luciferian worship of LD and S-VHS only vídeo library. Freeview tv channels are 1080i and weeks ago while watching i made a very good SVHS recording of "Baby Driver" (2017) and "Tomb raider" (2018) that shined later on the CRT Do you mean you got a better picture on the VHS in respect to the original source or for whatever VHS is worth?
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Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead? Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 15:21 |
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tasuke wrote: heaven knows, i've had far, FAR fewer issues with rental Videocassettes than that of the Russian Roulette nightmare of rental DVDs... Vhs was more durable because of its clamshell design. Give a 2 yeard old a vhs tape to put and then a dvd. Vhs will go in easily and start playing straight away. The dvd will fall under the tv cabinet, get scratched and be unplayable.
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Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead? Posted: 11 Jun 2020, 20:32 |
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Not losing multiple DVDs but yes some i liked a lot. DVDs are great , with only 12 of 13 months of delay after cinema premieres ,blockbusters right now are being broadcast on Freeview tv channels 1080i so i stopped buying them is the truth..they can be grabbed on DVD-R, BD-R, i like to do it on S-VHS tapes, try it, its a joy
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Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead? Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 16:46 |
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tasuke wrote: i do indeed take ginger care of my optical media, but that hardly means most people out there do anything like the same.
i get a lot of DVDs second hand, and i also rent often from the regional public library network.
between the two of those sources alone, i cannot begin to tell you the mass quantity of fluky discs i've had to endure.
meanwhile, damn near every VHS cassette i've ever bothered with has played all the way through, usually without a single hitch.
DVD is the final, and ultimate SD home video medium... IF you take care of it. Why wouldn’t you? This idea that inevitably someone is going to manually ruin every DVD. It’s nonsense. Aside from the very rare occasional accidents only total slobs ruin their optical discs. Library’s used to rent 35mm slides, 16mm prints, LPs, and even now many still loan out prints of paintings, litterally just paper...like the books they loan out. DVD is vastly more reliable than any of these formats but ITS the fragile one because it wasn’t until the DVD era that people started treating $20 movies like $0.20 newspapers. When CDs first came out there was often a little educational blurb about the format in with the booklet. It would say “treat the compact disc as you would a photographic negative”. Ha! Who throws their negatives unprotected onto the floor of their car? Nobody. I’ve also bought hundreds of used LDs and never encountered one that was as f-up as every copy of Grand Theft Auto 3 or NBA Live ‘97 I’ve ever seen. Used error, plain and simple. Priced so low nobody has any respect for it. The disc goes in the case or in the player at all times. ALL TIMES. Never set the disc down on anything ever, and if you do...set it back side down onto a clean surface. Only hold them by the edges or the spindle hole. Don’t wear huge bejeweled rings when handling. Now...how is a DVD going to get scratched if you do that? “Well my friend is rough on things.” Send him a bill and never loan him anything again, he’s a slob. “Ex-rentals don’t play.” Thats because some slob ruined them before you got them. They are broken things, broken things don’t work. Don’t buy discs with scratches on them. Don’t get me wrong, I’m no fan of DVD. While I do have many DVDs I mainly just held my breath between LD and BluRay. It’s a format I dislike. However these arguments are too silly to not comment on. These people who seem to scratch so many discs...do you wear a helmet indoors to be safe? Does your by your bicycle have three wheels? How many dents are in your car? How often do you have to replace a window or a TV because you accidentally put something through it? Can you believe there are people who can repair the tiniest watches? People who can write a bible verse on a grain of rice? People who can make a perfect five tier wedding cake? And then there are people who can’t not scratch their DVDs...the range of human experience is large.
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Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead? Posted: 13 Jun 2020, 17:24 |
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I learned the don't loan things out to people lesson pretty fast. Probably around 6th grade. My comment on the library was mostly just to indicate that people are in fact awful when it comes to taking care of things, especially when they are free. Even when people damage it they just return it and the library isn't going to make an effort to pinpoint who did it. I swear I'm one of 10 or less people that reports anything as damaged when I return things. Of course I didn't damage them* but whoever did the deed did not report it so then it gets checked out in an unwatchable state. *One time I checked something out and before I left noticed there is no way it was going to play. So I take it up to report it and the woman accuses me of having done the damage. This made so little sense to me for a lot of reasons. But she was in a pissy mood so I told her to check the time it was checked out at and just walked away. I never did see that particular person again at the help desk so I'm guessing I wasn't the only one she was awful to. signofzeta wrote: These people who seem to scratch so many discs...do you wear a helmet indoors to be safe? Does your by your bicycle have three wheels? How many dents are in your car? How often do you have to replace a window or a TV because you accidentally put something through it?
Can you believe there are people who can repair the tiniest watches? People who can write a bible verse on a grain of rice? People who can make a perfect five tier wedding cake? And then there are people who can’t not scratch their DVDs...the range of human experience is large. I feel like there is a large overlap between people that scratch their discs/buy scratched discs and think disc rot is a real problem.
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Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead? Posted: 15 Jun 2020, 17:40 |
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odotb3 wrote: Not that I've been keeping up with it but I heard the new Playstation 5 console will be available in two models. One with a disc drive and one without. Perhaps this is sonys way of slowly trying to kill off physical media? I'm sure the version without the disc drive will be more affordable. This is happening. The rumor is a $100 price difference. I would bet on Sony and Microsoft getting rid of physical discs entirely after this generation.
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Post subject: Re: How many more years before physical media is dead? Posted: 15 Jun 2020, 18:06 |
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Yeah I saw their presentation. Mostly forgetable and the console looks like a wifi router, but to go back to the "digital edition" as they call it. The console might be cheaper, but it'll be more expensive in the long run because of the games and I think that is the goal for sony, getting more in the long run.
First, games on digital stores (especially on consoles) are more expensive than their physical counterpart. AAA games msrp, for exemple, are 70$(or even more for some) at launch but from experience, you can get them for 60 or even 50 in some places.
Also the fact that they get cheaper real quick, physical copies tend to drop to 40-30$ generally around 6 months after launch where as on digital stores, the game can retain its price for even a few years. All of this plus the second hand market, where you can get really sweat deals
And to me, without the physical market, consoles lose the only adventage they still had over pc. That the game were yours and you could resell it, you could hand it to a friend and what not. But with where this is going, I really can't see a single reason to get a console.
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