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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching? Posted: 23 May 2021, 19:18 |
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substance wrote: I have been watching DVDs lately. I think last time was more than 10 years ago. Man I have been spoiled by Blu-rays and 4K, DVDs look awful. Unfortunately there is a ton of content out there on DVD only. I've been focusing on DVDs recently, some if not half are really bad but then there are others that are truly fine with the right setup. I feel DVD is the in-between of mid range mastering. Late release and some early LDs are super amazing, there are hit and miss in the mid range years. And LD is best on smaller sets rather than giant sets. DVD is pretty close to horrible in the early years, been watching a lot of HK discs that I've picked up and most are non animorphic rips from the LD master and are not great in anyway, LDs are better if you can find them for these titles. DVD is nicer on the mid to larger sets if mastered nicely. Blurays are great and all but you are all lying if you can tell the difference between those releases like a Criterion that has DVD-Bluray in the same package. I've got a few, the only blus in my collection anymore and I can't tell the difference, they are the same period. Or if you get the films that have a very short release time between the DVD and then a few months later the blu came out from the same master, you can see a difference you are lying to yourself.
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching? Posted: 23 May 2021, 22:16 |
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I disagree. It have, for example, Ponyo, the US DVD/BR combo from Disney. Sometimes the babysitter would put in the DVD version and I could always instantly tell. The color stands out most with that release, with Totoro there is macroblocking all over the DVD and there none in the Blueray.
Maybe if you’re watching The Third Man or something very old and b/w and below the standards of any format, but having four times the res/bit rate is extremely visible to me.
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shopkins82
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching? Posted: 24 May 2021, 20:37 |
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rein-o wrote: PEOPLE, I'm talking about these 2K remasters, when the DVD and Bluray are the same release from the new 2K masters. They are identical and have NO DIFFERENCE. Maybe on a 65" direct-view display viewed from 10', but even then I'd bet if you could view both split-screen you could see the difference. With live-action on a 128" 2.35:1 screen viewed from 14', it's not even a question. When you get into front-projection, every pixel counts. I'm right in the zone where I can somewhat see some sharpness/resolution benefit from 4K, but mostly on 2.35:1 content zoomed to fit the 2.35:1 screen... but the benefits of 4K aren't as much added resolution as wider color gamut and HDR.
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rcarlson
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching? Posted: 24 May 2021, 21:47 |
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rein-o wrote: PEOPLE, I'm talking about these 2K remasters, when the DVD and Bluray are the same release from the new 2K masters. They are identical and have NO DIFFERENCE. Yeah, no difference except that DVD video supports less than half of both the vertical and horizontal resolution of 2K. DCI 2K: 2048x1080 BD: 1920x1080 DVD: 720x480
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching? Posted: 24 May 2021, 22:30 |
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substance wrote: Are you sure you are using the HDMI output of your BD player and the output is set to 1080p? The increase in resolution(6x SD) and color fidelity is huge, you should be able to tell the difference immediately unless you have a very small TV and/or you sit really far away. No and I only drool out of one side of my mouth.
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substance
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching? Posted: 24 May 2021, 23:15 |
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720 x 480 = 345,600 Vs. 1920 x 1080 = 2,073,600 ——- 2,073,600 / 345,600 = 6
I am not even getting into interlaced vs progressive frames. But I must admit, I am jealous of you. I wish I couldn’t tell any difference. I would never have to spend more than a couple of bucks on movies.
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takeshi666
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching? Posted: 26 May 2021, 23:45 |
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gypsy wrote: Martin 1978
Holy crap watch this. It's a fantastic character drama underneath the horror. One of Romero's best films. I've been meaning to check it out, unfortunately it seems to exist in that same Rubinstein limbo as Dawn of the Dead except it's nowhere as popular so distributors are even less willing to dish the amount of cash required for it.
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takeshi666
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Post subject: Re: What have you been watching? Posted: 29 May 2021, 17:12 |
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Watched Mad Max last night - on Beta!
This tape is probably older than I am. Probably accounting to it being on betamax so it didn't see as much time inside somebody's dec, there's remarkably little wear on the tape and it looks and sounds about as good as you can get from a tape this old. Obviously this is far from being the ideal way to watch the movie (I still need to pick up that 4K release, if just for the unaltered Aussie mono track), but there are a few things about this release that make it special for me; the first time I ever saw the movie was on a bootleg copy of the original rental tape (which is insanely hard to come by, at least on VHS), so watching it in pan & scan with the dubbed American audio gives me that warm fuzzy feeling - which was something I could already do with the old US MGM DVD, but now I've got the clunky Finnish subtitles and low resolution picture to recreate the experience.
Although I think the bootleg was missing all the stuff from before and after the movie, including the copyright statements - which are so rife with spelling errors I don't think they had any quality control at all - and the trailers, including one for some movie called Thunder which just by the trailer alone I could tell was a colossal ripoff of The First Blood. Also it stars the guy from The Bronx Warriors!
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