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elahrairrah
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Post subject: Re: Bootlegs actually do exist on laserdisc Posted: 15 Aug 2012, 15:05 |
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I have what I believe to be a bootleg of Drunken Master 2 that I got in Singapore. The releasing company is "Intelligent Film and Video" (even has their address in Singapore on the back cover!) The mint marks are: SIDE A: JIN-166 A 03 M SIDE B: JIN-166 B 05 M Those ring a bell with any of the plants that anyone knows of? I'm lead to believe that it's a bootleg as there are no distribution company or production titles before the movie starts on the disc, and the chapter stops are all in 5 minute increments. That and it is subtitled in English, but the titles are cut off when they stretch to the ends of the screen (bad telecine transfer from a print?) It does look halfway decent though. Even says "Mastered from a Digital Video Source" on the back. Might just mean they used a DVCAM pointed at a projection screen for the master, right?
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laserking
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Post subject: Re: Bootlegs actually do exist on laserdisc Posted: 15 Aug 2012, 20:45 |
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elahrairrah wrote: I have what I believe to be a bootleg of Drunken Master 2 that I got in Singapore. The releasing company is "Intelligent Film and Video" (even has their address in Singapore on the back cover!) The mint marks are: SIDE A: JIN-166 A 03 M SIDE B: JIN-166 B 05 M Those ring a bell with any of the plants that anyone knows of? I'm lead to believe that it's a bootleg as there are no distribution company or production titles before the movie starts on the disc, and the chapter stops are all in 5 minute increments. That and it is subtitled in English, but the titles are cut off when they stretch to the ends of the screen (bad telecine transfer from a print?) It does look halfway decent though. Even says "Mastered from a Digital Video Source" on the back. Might just mean they used a DVCAM pointed at a projection screen for the master, right? Hi elahrairrah, I have a similar Singapore disc in my collection. Mine has the same type of mint markings as what you posted here. These indicate that the disc was made at Mitsubishi. The one I have is called "Expect No Mercy", and the reference number is JIN-189. The publisher listed on it is Cinestar Film & Video Pte. Ltd. Regards, David
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Post subject: Re: Bootlegs actually do exist on laserdisc Posted: 12 Jul 2020, 15:26 |
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rein-o wrote: The sleeve is a thinner paper than normal LDs but still glossy. last one on the bay sold for around 95 which i feel was cheap. when i first saw them on the bay around 2003 they were coming from korea and were selling on the low end for around 250 up to 400. I'm getting a copy as well soon and it seems that it was released as a boxset with the "Butcher" cover LP sized insert, a postcard with a copy #, a T-shirt and the LD itself. Attachment:
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Post subject: Re: Bootlegs actually do exist on laserdisc Posted: 12 Jul 2020, 16:26 |
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rein-o wrote: Interesting, love to see pics of the rest once you get it. Not sure I'm getting the full set but at least the boxset, the butcher cover and the LD. I have doubts the T-shirt and postcard will be included. Will update when received. Julien
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Post subject: Re: Bootlegs actually do exist on laserdisc Posted: 17 Jul 2020, 07:29 |
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edwin240170 wrote: saw the pictures you uploaded, looks like a Kuraray pressing to me, very characteristic ring and intro start... Also the font is same.. Kuraray without the -K (or -J sometimes possibly) looking like Pioneer USA with stampers that do not increment. Some shady/dark magic business What was the smallest batch production around these days, 500? 1,000? Julien
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Post subject: Re: Bootlegs actually do exist on laserdisc Posted: 17 Jul 2020, 09:15 |
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admin wrote: What was the smallest batch production around these days, 500? 1,000? I know of German and Belgian LD releases made by Pioneer with minimum of 500. PDO had service to make very limited (1) pressings - but these were non-commercial releases Br, Edwin
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Post subject: Re: Bootlegs actually do exist on laserdisc Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 01:45 |
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admin wrote: It took them 5 months but Discogs finally blocked it from buying/selling as a bootleg This release has been blocked from sale in the marketplace. It is not permitted to sell this item on Discogs.Julien
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Post subject: Re: Bootlegs actually do exist on laserdisc Posted: 24 Dec 2020, 07:20 |
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signofzeta wrote: You can’t buy bootlegs on Discogs? That sorta sucks and seems impossible. Bootlegs are essential to music... not this one so much obviously...but there are countless classic recordings for which no legit version exists. If the copyright owner makes a claim... it's out. You can document it but not trade on Discogs. For example this Miles Davis double LP I bought in a very normal music shop in Chicago: unofficial. https://www.discogs.com/Miles-Davis-Kind-Of-Blue/release/3629442But you can still freely buy it from the publisher in Europe: http://www.notnowmusic.com/product/kind-of-blue-mono-and-stereo-edition/I have no idea... eBay doesn't care though. Julien
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