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 Post subject: Anybody else out there trying to do 'bit perfect' audio cap?
PostPosted: 21 Apr 2017, 18:40 
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Hi there,

I have a bunch of music discs I'm trying to back up. I'm happy with the video capture at this point, and the audio isn't bad either. However, I would prefer to grab the digital audio stream if at all possible. I'm using a Windows 10 PC. Any suggestions for hardware and software?

On another note, I think that some DVD recorders got released outside of North America that have a digital audio input. That would simplify things if I could just get a dvd recorder that recorded digital audio. Anyone have any first hand experience with one of these models? I would think the Japanese market especially would get these, but information is limited in english.

Thanks for any insight.

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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else out there trying to do 'bit perfect' audio
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2017, 09:48 
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When I had a Hi-MD walkman, MZ-RH1 I used to capture perfect PCM from LDs.

I'd recommend getting a dedicated PCM audio recorder like a Hi-MD device or a new HDD based system.
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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else out there trying to do 'bit perfect' audio
PostPosted: 22 Apr 2017, 13:59 
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Ask what these guys use?

https://forum.fanres.com/thread-717.html
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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else out there trying to do 'bit perfect' audio
PostPosted: 07 Jul 2019, 00:56 
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Hmm that link doesn't work.

I wish I still had that HiMD recorder because I now want to capture PCM off LD to my PC. What is the most straightforward (and cheapest!) way to do this these days?
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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else out there trying to do 'bit perfect' audio
PostPosted: 07 Jul 2019, 05:19 
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I use an M-audio 2496 and Sound Forge. Has worked great for 15 years now, even for AC3 tracks if you have a demodulator. Dunno if this will work on Windows 10,though. And you might have to get a 2496 from ebay. Fanres (theypprobably just need to update their security certificate, try again later maybe) or originaltrilogy.com probably has threads with other recommendations.
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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else out there trying to do 'bit perfect' audio
PostPosted: 07 Jul 2019, 10:42 
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Thanks, sounds like a higher end setup. I'm on Windows 7

Would something like this do the job?

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/External-USB-Sound-Card-Channel-5-1-7-1-Optical-Audio-Card-Adapter-Notebook-New/253939451130
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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else out there trying to do 'bit perfect' audio
PostPosted: 07 Jul 2019, 20:47 
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Anything with a TOSLINK or SPDIF will do the job. There are approximately 180,000 Windows programs that can record audio. Windows probably already comes with everything out of the box.
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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else out there trying to do 'bit perfect' audio
PostPosted: 08 Jul 2019, 02:09 
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signofzeta wrote:
Anything with a TOSLINK or SPDIF will do the job..

Not necessarily, some devices internally resample the audio. Here's a thread on Fanres with a way to test the input : https://forum.fanres.com/thread-2686.html
There's also a thread in the same sub-forum about PCM capture.
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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else out there trying to do 'bit perfect' audio
PostPosted: 08 Jul 2019, 03:15 
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jd213 wrote:
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Anything with a TOSLINK or SPDIF will do the job..

Not necessarily, some devices internally resample the audio. Here's a thread on Fanres with a way to test the input : https://forum.fanres.com/thread-2686.html
There's also a thread in the same sub-forum about PCM capture.

Well in order to get the true sound you should just play your LD and stop being a copy pirate.
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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else out there trying to do 'bit perfect' audio
PostPosted: 08 Jul 2019, 03:59 
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Not sure if you're serious..I already own the LD, how is duplicating the audio for personal portable use pirating?
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Not sure if you're serious..I already own the LD, how is duplicating the audio for personal portable use pirating?


As long you as you own the original LD, and that the copy is for your own private usage, it's not a pirate copy.

I did a Digital Audio rip of Prince: Lovesexy Live (1988) [080 844 1] before selling my PAL LD player. I still own the LD even though I can't play it anymore.

Toslink Output 44.1KHz/16bit like the original soundtrack straight to Toslink USB recorder on my laptop. No modification.
Turned it into FLAC (~244MB) for normal play and compressed for mobile listening.

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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else out there trying to do 'bit perfect' audio
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Not sure if you're serious..I already own the LD, how is duplicating the audio for personal portable use pirating?


As long you as you own the original LD, and that the copy is for your own private usage, it's not a pirate copy.


Of course

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I did a Digital Audio rip of Prince: Lovesexy Live (1988) [080 844 1] before selling my PAL LD player. I still own the LD even though I can't play it anymore.

Toslink Output 44.1KHz/16bit like the original soundtrack straight to Toslink USB recorder on my laptop. No modification.
Turned it into FLAC (~244MB) for normal play and compressed for mobile listening.

Julien


Similar to what I want to do. I made a few beautiful PCM copies of LDs to my old HiMD unit. Clapton live in Hyde Park was a highlight.

I sold the HiMD walkman for big money 5 years ago and have missed it ever since. I may finally step into the DAP world and want to try to replicate the HiMD experience..
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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else out there trying to do 'bit perfect' audio
PostPosted: 21 Aug 2019, 06:21 
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Dear lord,

Piracy of 20-40 year old crappy versions of movies or music? I hope your are kidding. I'm just trying to preserve some of this old crap before all of my discs and players completely die. Not to mention make it a little easier to access. All the stuff I'm capping is on youtube anyways. Just prefer to have it from the original discs I watched 30 or so years ago.
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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else out there trying to do 'bit perfect' audio
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spazzman90 wrote:
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Piracy of 20-40 year old crappy versions of movies or music? I hope your are kidding.


I hope you are. Do you seriously think Youtube videos have uncompressed bitstream audio?
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PostPosted: 21 Aug 2019, 09:44 
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forper wrote:
spazzman90 wrote:
Dear lord,

Piracy of 20-40 year old crappy versions of movies or music? I hope your are kidding.


I hope you are. Do you seriously think Youtube videos have uncompressed bitstream audio?

I think he was answering to rein-o's comment.
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PostPosted: 21 Aug 2019, 14:48 
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takeshi666 wrote:
forper wrote:
spazzman90 wrote:
Dear lord,

Piracy of 20-40 year old crappy versions of movies or music? I hope your are kidding.


I hope you are. Do you seriously think Youtube videos have uncompressed bitstream audio?

I think he was answering to rein-o's comment.

That made me laugh today :thumbup:

This is what others need to think of when they ask how to copy star wars.
But now that it's coming out on 4KHD we are all saved :wtf: :lol:

No more copy pirates asking how to bootleg films they don't own the rights to.
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 Post subject: Re: Anybody else out there trying to do 'bit perfect' audio
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While Blu Ray has surpassed LD audio quality especially if you've got a ton of speakers and a nice setup, LD digital sound is still nice if you don't have all that. It's literally CD audio :)
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