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signofzeta wrote:

How many good PAL LDs are there anyway? I always just sort of got the impression that hardcore LD people in Europe mainly imported.

I still maintain that there are some really good PAL titles to be had, but they are far and few between. Most are poorly converted from the NTSC version, but there are some mastered for PAL that look and sound great.

substance wrote:

What are the chances these are identical players except scarts on 919E?
Did anybody ever tried playing a Pal ld on DVL-919?

I have the DVL-919E and think it's a great player. I can play Region 1 DVDs on it but I have to manually change the region code of the player using a remote hack. I'm not sure how the US version would handle PAL LD playback as the disc has to be rotated at a different speed than NTSC.

There are of course other changes in the European version; the buttons on the front are all in different places and on the back there's no RGB connection (SCART instead) and there's a PAL/NTSC/AUTO output selector.

Author:	substance [ 24 Jul 2012, 05:08 ]
Post subject:	Pioneer DVL-919E vs. DVL-919
I picked up a US version DVL-919 recently. I know there is a EU version DVL-919E in silver/gold finish with scart connectors. EU version is Pal/Ntsc player. I don't own any Pal Lds at the moment but I have region 2 Pal Dvds. I tried a few today and 919 played them with no problems although its not officially a Pal player. What are the chances these are identical players except scarts on 919E? Did anybody ever tried playing a Pal ld on DVL-919? I confirmed that it plays region 2 Pal dvds. I am going to order a Pal Ld to test it one of these days.

Author:	laserdisc_fan [ 24 Jul 2012, 07:07 ]
Post subject:	Re: Pioneer DVL-919E vs. DVL-919
The US or Japanese version of the DVL-919 will not play PAL laserdiscs. You will need to buy the European version for that.

Author:	signofzeta [ 24 Jul 2012, 07:25 ]
Post subject:	Re: Pioneer DVL-919E vs. DVL-919
Its extremely easy to hack a 909/919 to ignore region and play DVDs from anywhere, but the difference between PAL and NTSC LDs is a much much bigger problem. How many good PAL LDs are there anyway? I always just sort of got the impression that hardcore LD people in Europe mainly imported.

Author:	hippiedalek [ 24 Jul 2012, 10:40 ]
Post subject:	Re: Pioneer DVL-919E vs. DVL-919
signofzeta wrote: How many good PAL LDs are there anyway? I always just sort of got the impression that hardcore LD people in Europe mainly imported. I still maintain that there are some really good PAL titles to be had, but they are far and few between. Most are poorly converted from the NTSC version, but there are some mastered for PAL that look and sound great. substance wrote: What are the chances these are identical players except scarts on 919E? Did anybody ever tried playing a Pal ld on DVL-919? I have the DVL-919E and think it's a great player. I can play Region 1 DVDs on it but I have to manually change the region code of the player using a remote hack. I'm not sure how the US version would handle PAL LD playback as the disc has to be rotated at a different speed than NTSC. There are of course other changes in the European version; the buttons on the front are all in different places and on the back there's no RGB connection (SCART instead) and there's a PAL/NTSC/AUTO output selector.

Author:	substance [ 25 Jul 2012, 01:47 ]
Post subject:	Re: Pioneer DVL-919E vs. DVL-919
I am overal impressed with this machine. Seperate ld and dvd/cd trays are cool. I like it that the tray retracts very fast until about last 2-3 inches and then closes slowly. I have it sitting on top of my cld-97. I watched the first 3 chapters of sw 4 then compared to cld97. The colors and sharpness are on par with 97. There is a visible diference of noise levels between them. I could see it from about 8 feet on a 40" display. From 12' and onwards its very close to cld97. I did see more dotcrowl on 919. I am using composite out from both of them into dvdo vp30. Picture from 97 is pretty clean of dotcrowl. It is not very distracting but visible on 919. Dnr on 919 seems to clean up more noise than 97's dnr. Both make lose detail so I prefer off. I think dvl-919 is a very capable player on a mid size tv from about 10' the picture is pleasing. I am going to compare its dvd player section tomorrow. I have a toshiba a3 which can do 480i over hdmi. I will use component out into dvdo vp30. I wonder if this player could be sdi modded.

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Author:	substance [ 25 Jul 2012, 13:38 ]
Post subject:	Re: Pioneer DVL-919E vs. DVL-919
hippiedalek wrote: signofzeta wrote: How many good PAL LDs are there anyway? I always just sort of got the impression that hardcore LD people in Europe mainly imported. I still maintain that there are some really good PAL titles to be had, but they are far and few between. Most are poorly converted from the NTSC version, but there are some mastered for PAL that look and sound great. substance wrote: What are the chances these are identical players except scarts on 919E? Did anybody ever tried playing a Pal ld on DVL-919? I have the DVL-919E and think it's a great player. I can play Region 1 DVDs on it but I have to manually change the region code of the player using a remote hack. I'm not sure how the US version would handle PAL LD playback as the disc has to be rotated at a different speed than NTSC. There are of course other changes in the European version; the buttons on the front are all in different places and on the back there's no RGB connection (SCART instead) and there's a PAL/NTSC/AUTO output selector. looks like the european DVL-919E has the front face of DVL-909. They all have the same buttons but in different places. The European DVL-919E must be US DVL-909 equvelant. Last week there was a listing for EU DVL-91 on ebay.co.uk. It was identical to US DVL-909(looks) but in silver/gold finish. So the EU DVL-91 should be US DVL-909 as well. I asked the seller whether it would play Pal LDs, he replied it wont.

Author:	hippiedalek [ 25 Jul 2012, 14:02 ]
Post subject:	Re: Pioneer DVL-919E vs. DVL-919
substance wrote: looks like the european DVL-919E has the front face of DVL-909. They all have the same buttons but in different places. The European DVL-919E must be US DVL-909 equvelant. I hadn't noticed that, yes the front panel of the DVL-919E is the same configuration as the US DVL 909. It's not however an equivalent of the DVL-909 as there was a EU version with the same number. The 919E also has an audio option not available on the 909 models, I think it's the ability to play DTS from DVDS.

Author:	substance [ 25 Jul 2012, 17:07 ]
Post subject:	Re: Pioneer DVL-919E vs. DVL-919
US models DVL-909, Elite DVL-91, European models DVL-909, DVL-919E, DVL-91 all have the same front panel. US models Elite DVL-90 and DVL-919 have different front panels. I know converting DVL-909 into DVL-91 is possible via firmware flash. This needs confirming but it is possible they have the same guts. US version DVL-91 has 20bit/96khz dacs where as EU DVL-91 has 24bit/96khz(visible on front face) EU models have scart connectors opposed to component on US models. EU models have NTSC/PAL/Auto switch for video out.

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