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Author:  disclord [ 23 Aug 2012, 03:12 ]
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naiaru wrote:
signofzeta wrote:
My main piece of advice would be to always buy Pioneer, or at least one of the lightly rebadged Pioneer clones from Proscan, Marrantz, etc.

I'd agree with this with the exception of Panasonic.


Trust me, AVOID the Panasonic LX-1000u - the vast majority cannot read CLV discs without severe crosstalk and it has a noisy picture with chroma noise. I went through 3 and even Panasonic got involved and couldn't fix it - the Perfect Vision review also noted its severe CLV extended play tracking problems.

Author:  Guest [ 23 Aug 2012, 03:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: LD player recommendation newbie

Ops, taking note, and about the list of craiglist he give , whats your recomendation, i seee lot of good ones!!! ;)

DS MITSUBISHI MV-7026 (Pioneer CLD-D702 clone) A/V CX OPT
What about this one i see in the offer,


greets

Author:  naiaru [ 23 Aug 2012, 03:38 ]
Post subject:  Re: LD player recommendation newbie

disclord wrote:
naiaru wrote:
signofzeta wrote:
My main piece of advice would be to always buy Pioneer, or at least one of the lightly rebadged Pioneer clones from Proscan, Marrantz, etc.

I'd agree with this with the exception of Panasonic.


Trust me, AVOID the Panasonic LX-1000u - the vast majority cannot read CLV discs without severe crosstalk and it has a noisy picture with chroma noise. I went through 3 and even Panasonic got involved and couldn't fix it - the Perfect Vision review also noted its severe CLV extended play tracking problems.

Oops, sorry, I had my LX-600 in my head when I said that.

enito wrote:
Ops, taking note, and about the list of craiglist he give , whats your recomendation, i seee lot of good ones!!! ;)

DS MITSUBISHI MV-7026 (Pioneer CLD-D702 clone) A/V CX OPT
What about this one i see in the offer,


greets

It's supposedly just slightly worse than the 703, which I know from experience is much noiser than at least the LX-600 (and I'm assuming the same can be said of the LX-900. Also, I've heard good things about the 670).

Author:  Guest [ 23 Aug 2012, 03:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: LD player recommendation newbie

Right, 670 can be the option...

Author:  disclord [ 23 Aug 2012, 03:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: LD player recommendation newbie

The LX-900 is very low noise - it's amazing how good LaserDisc's look on it. And the digital NR has no smearing side effects.

Author:  rixrex [ 23 Aug 2012, 04:19 ]
Post subject:  Re: LD player recommendation newbie

Enito, I replied to your email vial direct email, okay?

Regarding the make of LD players, Pioneer has always been first choice among most serious collectors, since Pioneer really went all out in the LD player market. The Pioneer clones are every bit as good as the regular Pioneers of the same model since they are really just rebadged Pioneer players.

That being said, a lot of what you will hear is base upon personal experiences and personal likes/dislikes due to those experiences. The comparison boards are a good way to get an idea of how the makes stack up against each other.

As examples, there's a group of Pioneer players that tend to have side change problems that I personally stay away from. Those are mostly in the D5xx series, but then the D504 has the better U-track side change like both Sony and Panasonic, and so it is an exception. Sony gets a bad rap often, but I have seen Sonys that stack up well against any other consumer models, like the early industrial players and the much later MDP-Vxx series only available in Japan or Hong Kong.

I have had Panasonic LX series players, including LX 1000u that I liked better than the Pioneer Elite players I had. I have also had DVL 909/919 players that I liked better than the 703/704 players. I have had Pioneers that had more crosstalk (kind of a video vertical shimmy effect) than a Panasonic or Sony.

With little experience to go on, you'll have to pick something you can afford that has the features you want. The advice you get will be all over the place, with one exception, which is most will tell you that you are best off with a Pioneer or clone first, and a Pansonic second. Personally, I would put it the other way around, but that's me.

Author:  signofzeta [ 23 Aug 2012, 05:36 ]
Post subject:  Re: LD player recommendation newbie

naiaru wrote:
signofzeta wrote:
My main piece of advice would be to always buy Pioneer, or at least one of the lightly rebadged Pioneer clones from Proscan, Marrantz, etc.

I'd agree with this with the exception of Panasonic.


I'm not recommending Pioneer because they are the best or anything, but because you can still gets new parts and even service. Sony made some nice LD players, but when they break...good luck. The things are 15 years out of warrantee and 10x as rare as a Pioneer...which is important if you need donor parts.

Author:  rixrex [ 23 Aug 2012, 07:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: LD player recommendation newbie

That's a very good point when needing to get parts from the factory, as only Pioneer still supports LD players. But sometimes just the new part costs more than buying a whole player, and the service costs are pretty wow!

However, I don't see it as a major difference if you are getting parts from other players, since the Panny and Sony players have a significant amount of interchangable parts on what is a much smaller range of player platforms, and these parts players are going to be pretty inexpensive (except for shipping which is going through the roof now).

Author:  disclord [ 23 Aug 2012, 14:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: LD player recommendation newbie

rixrex wrote:
That's a very good point when needing to get parts from the factory, as only Pioneer still supports LD players. But sometimes just the new part costs more than buying a whole player, and the service costs are pretty wow!

However, I don't see it as a major difference if you are getting parts from other players, since the Panny and Sony players have a significant amount of interchangable parts on what is a much smaller range of player platforms, and these parts players are going to be pretty inexpensive (except for shipping which is going through the roof now).


I got another Panasonic LX-900 so I'd always have some spare parts should my player that Duncan modified ever die. And the 2nd player works well too, it just doesn't read CD's reliably.

Author:  rixrex [ 23 Aug 2012, 23:59 ]
Post subject:  Re: LD player recommendation newbie

Count on it. As with anything mechanical/electronic, age will set in and the thing will eventually give up.

The only thing is who will go first, the player or the owner?

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