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| Author: | reinbo [ 13 Sep 2012, 12:53 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
cararte wrote: I don't mean to tell you are not right, but the LS-2 was based on the Panasonic LX600, not the LS-1. This LS-1 YES, was based on the LX900, cofirmed to me by Mr. Larry from MSB. And to be exact 3 units of these were made, no more, and he owns one. He also told me this Transport is very High End, and with the proper DAC it delivers an outstanding sound quality. The picture of course, it's fantastic for Laserdisc as the LX900 is. Hi Ricardo, when do I get my money back on the broken MLD 7020 you sent me. It has been almost a year now. Please pay up. PS. Let everybody be warned about Rocaro Tomas's business ethics. Just look at his stats. He shuld be banned. |
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| Author: | reinbo [ 13 Sep 2012, 12:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
cararte wrote: I don't need to run from anybody. Rein case is solving, i don't steel nobodys money ok? If you sold anything to anybody and that person damages the player and then says it was you, it's easy to say. I bet you would't pay one single dollar from your pocket, but i am solving the problem. It's easy to talk when we are not in the situation. Well If you don't intend to keep it. How much longer are you gonna hold on to it? |
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| Author: | Guest [ 20 Sep 2012, 11:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
The MSB LS-1 Transport is confirmed to be a Runco LJRII (Studio Version) but with better quality and finish. It comes with LX-900 Panasonic laser, not 600 as told. The 600 series laser comes in the LS-2 Silver. |
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| Author: | Guest [ 20 Sep 2012, 18:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
No, they are not, the 600 series don't have the "jog shuttle". The LS-1 is the Runco LJRII improved by MSB. Diference: 1. MSB didn't paid "Lucas Arts" to have the THX logo; The manager of MSB was the one that developed the Runco LJR-II for Runco; 2. The LS-1 Transport is the Studio Version of the Runco LJR-II; 3. MSB is more beautiful; 4. The Remote Control is exactly the same as the Runco LJR-II, but Gold. 5. ...and for less....only 3 LS-1 were made Disclord can say it's a 600 series inside, it's not, i have the confirmation. It doesn't change anything in my life a i don't own it, |
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| Author: | naiaru [ 20 Sep 2012, 19:58 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
louis_steven wrote: No, they are not, the 600 series don't have the "jog shuttle". The LS-1 is the Runco LJRII improved by MSB. Diference: 1. MSB didn't paid "Lucas Arts" to have the THX logo; The manager of MSB was the one that developed the Runco LJR-II for Runco; 2. The LS-1 Transport is the Studio Version of the Runco LJR-II; 3. MSB is more beautiful; 4. The Remote Control is exactly the same as the Runco LJR-II, but Gold. 5. ...and for less....only 3 LS-1 were made Disclord can say it's a 600 series inside, it's not, i have the confirmation. It doesn't change anything in my life a i don't own it, I have a LX-600 and it is the exact same remote as the picture in my last post, but with a different sticker. The buttons are the same, the layout is the same, it's the same remote.
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| Author: | Guest [ 20 Sep 2012, 22:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
Well, but it's not. The LX600 is the LS-2 Silver. One more thing, it's not comparable also in first place because the LS-1 has professional connections and gold plated connections, and weights 30 kgs, and the LX600 doesn't weight that, not even close. You are comparing 1000/1500 USD machines with 5500 USD machines. Despite of what is said here this is the reality. If i found an LS-1 i wouldn't sell it, NO WAY! Love the looks of the player. |
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| Author: | naiaru [ 20 Sep 2012, 22:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
louis_steven wrote: Well, but it's not. The LX600 is the LS-2 Silver. One more thing, it's not comparable also in first place because the LS-1 has professional connections and gold plated connections, and weights 30 kgs, and the LX600 doesn't weight that, not even close. You are comparing 1000/1500 USD machines with 5500 USD machines. Despite of what is said here this is the reality. If i found an LS-1 i wouldn't sell it, NO WAY! Love the looks of the player. Let me just remind you that I literally just showed you two pictures of the same remote with different stickers. It weighs more because of MSB's "Isolation Plate" which was heavy to reduce vibrations and magnetism (whether that magnetism does anything is dubious). Changing the connections doesn't require replacing the boards already in the player, so it's irrelevant as it doesn't prove anything. The price is irrelevant too. They can charge whatever they want. Yeah, it may look better on the outside, and it might get you more on the market, but it'll have the same PQ as the LX-600. |
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| Author: | Guest [ 20 Sep 2012, 22:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
Whatever... But that machine is completely diferent level, it's like the Runco LJR-II. |
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| Author: | naiaru [ 20 Sep 2012, 23:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
louis_steven wrote: Whatever... But that machine is completely diferent level, it's like the Runco LJR-II. Yeah, it's a on a completely different level in all aspects that having nothing to do with performance. |
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| Author: | Guest [ 21 Sep 2012, 08:55 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
Did you ever saw any LS-1 working? Well neither did i, i only saw the Runco and i like it. So, if an LS-1, specially the PLATINUM never went trough your hands how can you talk about performance? Are you trying to convince your self you have a unit with the same performance by having an LX600? |
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| Author: | naiaru [ 21 Sep 2012, 18:24 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
louis_steven wrote: Did you ever saw any LS-1 working? Well neither did i, i only saw the Runco and i like it. So, if an LS-1, specially the PLATINUM never went trough your hands how can you talk about performance? Are you trying to convince your self you have a unit with the same performance by having an LX600? Well, if you have no LS-1 either then aren't you saying your position is just as invalid? I know you wan't to believe it's better because it has a fancier shell, but the truth is it just isn't. You could layer a player in pure gold, but that doesn't mean it'll perform any better. If you can look at those two remotes side-by-side and still tell me that you think they have nothing to do with each other, then it would seem to me that you're the only one trying to convince themselves of anything. |
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| Author: | Guest [ 22 Sep 2012, 00:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
So, in you opinion is better a Runco LJR-II than the LS-1? What are the major diferences in picture or sound? |
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| Author: | tomtastic [ 22 Sep 2012, 01:29 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
I don't know anything about the player but you can get XLR's for it cheap and go from female XLR to composite, S video or whatever. |
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| Author: | lons_vex [ 22 Sep 2012, 09:04 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
tomtastic wrote: I don't know anything about the player but you can get XLR's for it cheap and go from female XLR to composite, S video or whatever. And here I always thought XLR is for audio only. Wow, learned something new. |
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| Author: | tomtastic [ 22 Sep 2012, 22:10 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
lons_vex wrote: tomtastic wrote: I don't know anything about the player but you can get XLR's for it cheap and go from female XLR to composite, S video or whatever. And here I always thought XLR is for audio only. Wow, learned something new. Ok, not S video, I was thinking of a rj59 connector I need to convert. But the XLR on it could be used easily to whatever you need to go to for 15.00 or less. |
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| Author: | elahrairrah [ 24 Sep 2012, 18:17 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
tomtastic wrote: Ok, not S video, I was thinking of a rj59 connector I need to convert. But the XLR on it could be used easily to whatever you need to go to for 15.00 or less. Well, since it's for audio, probably the best conversion is to RCA or BNC so you can use a coax cable. |
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| Author: | reinbo [ 01 Oct 2012, 14:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
cararte wrote: I don't need to run from anybody. Rein case is solving, i don't steel nobodys money ok? If you sold anything to anybody and that person damages the player and then says it was you, it's easy to say. I bet you would't pay one single dollar from your pocket, but i am solving the problem. It's easy to talk when we are not in the situation. The case is not solving. All you have to do is refund me my money like you promissed you would, but never did. PS. I'm real easy to talk to. Just tell me what your problem is. Why do you 'keep' my money? You know I did not damage the player. You promised me to refund, so please do. It has been almost over a year now. In my book that makes you a thief. |
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| Author: | disclord [ 10 Oct 2012, 03:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
naiaru wrote: louis_steven wrote: Well, but it's not. The LX600 is the LS-2 Silver. One more thing, it's not comparable also in first place because the LS-1 has professional connections and gold plated connections, and weights 30 kgs, and the LX600 doesn't weight that, not even close. You are comparing 1000/1500 USD machines with 5500 USD machines. Despite of what is said here this is the reality. If i found an LS-1 i wouldn't sell it, NO WAY! Love the looks of the player. Let me just remind you that I literally just showed you two pictures of the same remote with different stickers. It weighs more because of MSB's "Isolation Plate" which was heavy to reduce vibrations and magnetism (whether that magnetism does anything is dubious). Changing the connections doesn't require replacing the boards already in the player, so it's irrelevant as it doesn't prove anything. The price is irrelevant too. They can charge whatever they want. Yeah, it may look better on the outside, and it might get you more on the market, but it'll have the same PQ as the LX-600. Yep, the MSB LS-1 is a Panasonic LX-600 - MSB didn't like the LX-900 for various reasons, mainly due to problems with CD playback, and only offered the 900-based Platinum LS-II on a special order basis for $5,495 - it was a plain looking player, nothing like the Runco LJR I or THX Certified LJR II. Instead of using a new, custom front panel, the LX-900's upper half of the front panel and the disc door were kept, along with the buttons and jog/shuttle dial, which was completely removed on the Runco. The 600-based LS-I also removed the shuttle dial from the custom front panel. The LS-II kept the digital field noise reduction button and chapter skip buttons - the bottom half of the player was wooden with cut outs for the display panel and buttons. It looked like a hand built prototype. MSB preferred the LX-600 player and especially the LX-H670, which they added their digital audio reclocking circuitry to. In regards to video mods, except for making sure that video output levels met specs and such, nothing was added to improve performance. Only the 900 based players, including the Runco, had the low cost video output board added that corrected the video APL error that some of the 900's were affected with. The THX standards were designed around the LX-900 and off-the-shelf LX-900's met THX specs without any changes needed. Here's the Platinum LS-II that used the LX-900.
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| Author: | elahrairrah [ 10 Oct 2012, 17:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: MSB LS-1 Platinum WOW |
Yikes! That looks like a Frankensteined LD player! |
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