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 Post subject: DVL-H9 ?
PostPosted: 16 Jun 2012, 16:07 
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Been watching these for a while, the seems to be very poplar in Japan, always around 20k-30k yen, (300-400 dollar). Does anyone know wich model its based on ?

Does anyone have this player ?

http://www.kogerer.ru/subj/pic/h9.jpg
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 Post subject: Re: DVL-H9 ?
PostPosted: 16 Jun 2012, 17:48 
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Looking around online it seems it is the best combo player...which isn't saying much...

Supposedly it has the comb filter from the S9, which is great, so if it isn't to expensive I'd get one just for that reason. Is also almost 40lbs, which is also good.

I wouldn't buy any LD combo player with the DVD player in mind though. All DVD players made during that period were terrible compared to the stuff of today.
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PostPosted: 16 Jun 2012, 18:37 
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It just looks to be very similiar to a DVL-919 or 909 albeit with no PAL playback if that is a factor.
Since you can get those machines readily available in Europe for less you'd be better off buying from closer to home or chosing a more exclusive model that was only available for the Japanese market in my opinion.
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PostPosted: 16 Jun 2012, 19:05 
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I know, but I was mostly wondering why its so popular in Japan, becouse they can have 1000s of 919-players for enxt to nothing.
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PostPosted: 16 Jun 2012, 19:10 
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the retail price was 230 000 yen =)
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PostPosted: 16 Jun 2012, 19:19 
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more info here:
http://pioneer.jp/press/1998/1202-1.html

dont understand so much of the japanese text but atleast the dvd seems to be based on http://pioneer.jp/press/1997/1110-1.html
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 Post subject: Re: DVL-H9 ?
PostPosted: 17 Jun 2012, 01:23 
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What's nice about it:

Fancy comb filter (will look slightly better on HDTVs)

Digital Out (ie: no demodulator needed)

I'd say these two things would make it popular with anyone needing a player nowadays, and much better than a 909/919. That's probably why people want it.

Also, it has both side play, a remote with the cool shuttle dial on it, and its big/heavy/probably quiet. I'd be interested in one for a good price.
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PostPosted: 17 Jun 2012, 09:22 
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signofzeta wrote:
What's nice about it:

Fancy comb filter (will look slightly better on HDTVs)

Digital Out (ie: no demodulator needed)


I'm almost 100% sure you still need a demodulator, as the Dolby Digital output will just be for DVD's.
And I would also not bet on the fact that the "fancy" comb filter in this unit is any good.
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PostPosted: 17 Jun 2012, 09:58 
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I owned a dvl-h9 a few years ago...

It was the best combi unit I've ever seen in action.
Picture quality was stunning for LD. Comb filter was indeed a big +
Dvd playback was ok. nothing spectacular .

It has an ac-3rf output! You do need a demodulator!
I sold it since spare parts would not be easy to get (living in Europe that is) if it broke down one day...
Living in Europe it wasn't the best buy for me since it's limited to ntsc only.
I remember the power cable being very thick. not easy to put away in a rack.
I own several ld players and at the time it was as High end I could get regarding a player but it was of no use to me as main player. Ntsc only...
It would be a shame to put in a closset so I sold it .

If ntsc playback is what you need I'd say GO FOR IT. You won't regret it
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PostPosted: 17 Jun 2012, 16:10 
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DVL-H9 can not be based on DV-S9 from a simple fact that S9 can not play CDs. Its clamps mechanism and servo is not optimized for 5" CDs or DVDs. It is mostlikely a DVL-919/700 with the comb filter from Dv-S9. Assuming this is correct, its LD section is based on 604 series where as LD-S9 is based of of 704/99. CLD-R7G is also based of of 604 but its comb filter(Nec 3D adaptive) is newer than S9(Mitsubishi 3D adaptive).
I read that the dvd section is DV-S9(DV-09 in US) which was one of the first THX certified(only US model) dvd players. It didn't score highly on reviews and benchmark tests back in the day.
Again if above is correct, it is a good player. If you have an outboard video processor with SDI inputs. you can SDI mod the dvd section and be on par or better than DVD/BD players today(on DVD playback) although DV-S9 had chorma bug issue. The 604based LD section with 2nd gen mitsubishi 3d filter can yield good results with an outboard processor with good de-interlacing and noise reduction.
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PostPosted: 17 Jun 2012, 21:40 
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I think its easy to say that its the best combo player =) But how is it compared to the for example CLD-R7G, thats the question... Becouse it shouldnt be better then the ld-s9...
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 Post subject: Re: DVL-H9 ?
PostPosted: 18 Jun 2012, 03:34 
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R7G has the 3rd generation Nec motion adaptive 3d comb filter in it. H9/S9 has 2nd generation Mitsubishi motion adaptive 3d comb filter in them.
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PostPosted: 22 Jun 2012, 15:52 
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I mean the DVL-H9 is the best COMBI player!


Never compared it with a LD only deck but I'm sure model DVL-H9 is the one best combi to own.
It's a beautiful player to own.

I own 2 dvl-919E units and they can not touch the PQ of the H9. sure they have THE LOOK :)
I believe dvl-909 - 919 series are overrated PQ wise...

they look great... that's about it.
Display , scaler, cables etc... can have different results however....
I'm sure if proper calibrated any player can display a decent picture.

These days with all built in scaler equipment in receivers ,displays and such a "high end" LD player just isn't worth the money!
If a player outputs a decent composite signal you can achieve a great analoge laserdisc picture regardless of the player.

I think most of us seem to forget we got spoiled the last few years with HD 1080p
Myself I've tried to get the best of every player I own.
It's obvious ... :clap:
It doesn't get any better for LD's
enjoy the format in the best possible way for you...
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 Post subject: Re: DVL-H9 ?
PostPosted: 23 Jun 2012, 15:48 
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kris wrote:
I mean the DVL-H9 is the best COMBI player!


Never compared it with a LD only deck but I'm sure model DVL-H9 is the one best combi to own.
It's a beautiful player to own.

I own 2 dvl-919E units and they can not touch the PQ of the H9. sure they have THE LOOK :)
I believe dvl-909 - 919 series are overrated PQ wise...

they look great... that's about it.
Display , scaler, cables etc... can have different results however....
I'm sure if proper calibrated any player can display a decent picture.

These days with all built in scaler equipment in receivers ,displays and such a "high end" LD player just isn't worth the money!
If a player outputs a decent composite signal you can achieve a great analoge laserdisc picture regardless of the player.

I think most of us seem to forget we got spoiled the last few years with HD 1080p
Myself I've tried to get the best of every player I own.
It's obvious ... :clap:
It doesn't get any better for LD's
enjoy the format in the best possible way for you...




I want one mostly for the nice look, for some reason it almost cost as much as the S9. If you ask me the H9 looks better =)
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 Post subject: Re: DVL-H9 ?
PostPosted: 24 Jun 2012, 01:55 
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To me it looks like a 919e in gold finish.
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PostPosted: 24 Jun 2012, 12:58 
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To me it looks like a 919e in gold finish.



but its fatter... The fatter player, the better it is, thats common sense =)
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PostPosted: 13 Jul 2012, 09:39 
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Has NO DTS output!
  
 
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PostPosted: 13 Jul 2012, 19:30 
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A DVL-H9 does not have a dts output?
I've played dts dvd's , dts ld's and ac-3 laserdiscs....
All connections are there....
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PostPosted: 13 Jul 2012, 20:23 
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Well mine did NOT support DTS on dvd only on laserdisc. it was à hongkong version 1.6 IIRC.
  
 
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PostPosted: 14 Jul 2012, 03:53 
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Im picking up a dvl 919 next week. Would you say cld d925 has similar pic to dvl 919e? It sucks that the us 919 does not read pal discs.
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