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forper
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Post subject: Re: LD player for music. Posted: 05 Oct 2017, 23:53 |
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lons_vex wrote: forper, I think your S9 must have been defective when you bought it. There is no other explanation really for the problems you had with this machine. No, it functioned perfectly for 3 months after I got it. I've had 3 other Pioneers, all of them have had lacklustre audio compared to my Sony's. I'm not biased to Sony at all either - I always have said that all my Pioneers have had better PQ than any of my Sony's. I'll also say that on average my Sony's were more reliable as well. Lasers never gave up but all my Pioneers had serious laser problems at some point. Just real world experience that Pioneer zealots here don't seem to want to ever accept. You see the average fan here has never actually owned a Sony player, they just repeat the diatribe that "SONY SUCKS!!!" hahaha, so funny when the majority of a forum is biased. It's the same as Macrossworld. Majority think Kawamori is God. I think he's a genius mechanical designer for the Valkyrie but as a writer he sucks!!! Got me banned there for insulting their God. Pioneer is God here. Dangerous times..
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: LD player for music. Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 00:06 |
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lons_vex wrote: forper, I think your S9 must have been defective when you bought it. There is no other explanation really for the problems you had with this machine. He just does this. Over and over again. Still here, won’t shut up. I’d advise just ignoring him.
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forper
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Post subject: Re: LD player for music. Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 00:18 |
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signofzeta wrote: lons_vex wrote: forper, I think your S9 must have been defective when you bought it. There is no other explanation really for the problems you had with this machine. He just does this. Over and over again. Still here, won’t shut up. I’d advise just ignoring him. Don't like what you're hearing?
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: LD player for music. Posted: 06 Oct 2017, 00:28 |
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timax wrote: Hello. I have a desire to buy the player for music LDs. Movie I will not watch. Requirements: reliability, LD playback only, no CD or DVD (the extra parts not needed), digital outputs (connection plan by using the DAC). The video quality is not important, the main emphasis on the quality of the audio. Better without auto reverse. Disks have and will only buy NTSC. I read the forum. Pioneer HLD-1000 is the best player. But it is expensive. Ebay starts $ 1000 + shipping and customs fees. What are the other options. Is there a player for my needs in the price range up to $ 500? Thank you If you plan to use the digital outs then all you need is a working player. The bitstream to your DAC will be the same. The only player that can’t do this task easily to perfection is a broken player. This is kinda non-negotiable. Your audiophile third eye has to be opened rereeeeaaallly wide to hear the difference between SPDIF and TOSLINK. If you were using the LD player’s DACs it would be more complicated since those vary and some of the “good” ones sound like crap to some people. When it comes to the analog tracks (and you will be limited to them on some titles) I’m afraid that’s more complicated. Analog LD audio is like tape in a lot of ways so expect that level of variation between players and just as big of variations in opinion from users. I would imagine that a solid chassis wound help a lot though so probably the classic players from the late 80s/early 90s. The tanky ones. Usually (usually) if you only have analog tracks the LD probably doesn’t sound that great anyway. I’d imagine the list of analog only music LDs that were never reissued with digital sound isn’t very long.
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publius
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Post subject: Re: LD player for music. Posted: 01 Nov 2017, 20:27 |
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timax wrote: But why doesn't anybody answer my question: is it Possible to listen to LDs in PAL on the NTSC players? The answer is an unequivocal NO. NTSC players will only play NTSC discs. The difference of video system imposes a difference of other parameters. The occasional non-dual-system player will play discs of the other system at the wrong frame rate, in monochrome, without sound, because the carrier frequencies are wrong, or the digital EFM waveform is shifted to the wrong speed.
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timax
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Post subject: Re: LD player for music. Posted: 15 Jun 2019, 16:19 |
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So it's been almost two years. I've expanded the player collection a bit. To the firstborn of the CLD-959 was joined by the LD-S1 & CLD 2950 for disks in PAL. To be honest, the result exceeded expectations. The quality of music playback is sometimes higher than on the LP. A normal CD is not even considered, because it is a different League. Two my friends audiophile hearing the sound of the LD player,purchased them for myself. LD disc collection is growing and have over 200 pieces. If only half of the music recordings were available on LD I wouldn't want anything else. Of course, not all discs have high-quality audio track, especially when it comes records made in 50-60 years of the last century, but all that was recorded later - excellent. I compared the same recordings on different media. It was fun...)) Of course you can achieve excellent quality and using LPs, but it is much more difficult and much more expensive. All fans of high-quality sound, definitely recommend music on LDs !
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forper
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Post subject: Re: LD player for music. Posted: 16 Jun 2019, 05:33 |
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timax wrote: The quality of music playback is sometimes higher than on the LP. A normal CD is not even considered, because it is a different League. Are you listening to the digital tracks on your LDs or analogue? You realise CDs contain PCM audio, the same as LD (and DVD for that matter) digital 2ch sound right?
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