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Pioneer CLD-97 Help needed, step down converter
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Author:  exinferis [ 06 Feb 2012, 01:03 ]
Post subject:  Pioneer CLD-97 Help needed, step down converter
Hi Guys, I think the title says it, I just bought a CLD -97 LD Player. That was one of the most insane things I ever did, I never bought a used component that pricey for a dead medium. Anyway, I feel that it was a good deal. As I´m living in Germany I´m having a small problem, I need a step-down converter for the player. Unfortunately I have no idea nor did I find something useful on the net, what the power consumption for the player is. I checked my PAL Players here, and they say it´s about 30 Watt..
I used some KXT Transformatos in the past (but for BD /DVD Players) with 150 W Power. Do you guys think thats enough for powering a Laserdisc Player ? It´s the peak in power consumption that makes me headaches, so I´d be super grateful if anyone could give me infos.
A Picture of a CLD-97 would be nice, as all the tech specs are printed there.
Thx in adavance, best greetings
ex
Author:  exinferis [ 06 Feb 2012, 11:33 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer CLD-97 Help needed, step down converter
Some things are so easy sometimes, I found out that here are manuals for LD players accessible...It says here 58W power consumption for aq CLD-97, so i should be on the right way using a 150 W stepdownconverter..just in case power consumption is higher when the player is powered on...
Anyone knows about this subject here ?
Author:  benmbe [ 06 Feb 2012, 11:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer CLD-97 Help needed, step down converter
Good day exinferis,

The CLD-97 is a US power socket rated AC120 v, So you would need a step down transformer to match the same.

Look at the following web site:www.tacima.com/tacima_products.html.

Then look at the list in red and choose:Step Down transformers - USA equipment for use in Europe I have around four of these units, they are totally reliable and will never even get warm due to the low wattage of the players. Made to the British stardards and made in the uk, for us with equipment around the world.

Hope this helps Friend

Sincere Regards

:thumbup:
Author:  exinferis [ 06 Feb 2012, 22:51 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer CLD-97 Help needed, step down converter
Thanx alot for your help Mr. Benmbe. Yes, that would be exactly what i need, but hey, those big boys are expensive. Unfortunately I don´t find this brand here in Germany, but I´m sure there are alternatives.
Quite funny looking too with their round design. It would fit to a LD player :-). I never cared about power consumption of a player (till now of course), but I thought that these machines would have used more power than just 58W..when I think of the noise it makes when the disc starts spinning it feels like theres more power needed than that.
Ok, gotta go, since I found out about the forum the nights are shorter,

greetings
Author:  invenio [ 15 Feb 2012, 04:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer CLD-97 Help needed, step down converter
Does anybody have experience with problems of high end electronics and the fact that voltage converters will give the correct voltage but not the correct frequency. In the US, the frequency is 60 hz but in Europe it's 50 hz. For a simple device like a batter charger this is not a problem but would continued use of something like a LD player be a problem? Not sure what the answer is maybe somebody can answer this.
Author:  publius [ 15 Feb 2012, 05:13 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer CLD-97 Help needed, step down converter
LD players made in Japan (ie most of them) will all accept 50/60 Hz equally, as both frequencies are used in that country. It would cost them more to engineer a supply which only accepted one! Really, a player new enough to have digital sound will probably have a 'flexible' power supply, ie at a minimum 100~120 or 220~240 V 50/60 Hz, if not a full-on 100~240 V type.

(edited to add) I have a Sony MST-2000 MUSE decoder which was semi-officially imported for some kind of testing purpose. It has a US power cord wired to what certainly appears to be the original Japanese power supply. I may pick up a 120-100 V stepdown transformer one of these days, but it's far from a priority.
Author:  Guest [ 15 Feb 2012, 05:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer CLD-97 Help needed, step down converter
I have no experience with Japanese LD Players, but I have messed with some Japanese game systems and there is a noticeable difference using a stepdown converter. A lot of guys go years banging out game after game on their PC Engine DUO or their Japanese Saturn without any issues, but I have noticed my Famicom and Panasonic Q run much cooler using a step down converter. The Panny Q is much quieter too.
Author:  invenio [ 15 Feb 2012, 14:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer CLD-97 Help needed, step down converter
It sounds like the frequency "can" have some effect on performance depending on the device. From "jamisonia" comments I presume the "quieter" function is from the fan speeds running at a lower rate. I wonder if the actual performance of any of these devices (LD players or otherwise) get effected by running on 50 hz vs 60 hz?
Author:  Guest [ 15 Feb 2012, 14:35 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer CLD-97 Help needed, step down converter
The fan on the Panny Q runs faster off of American power, than using the step down converter. I don't believe mine does any sort of frequency conversion though. The VC100J by PowerBright is always the one cited by Famicom owners as the one to get:

http://www.voltageconverters.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=VC100J
Author:  publius [ 25 Feb 2012, 02:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer CLD-97 Help needed, step down converter
Well, I did wind up buying a 120-100 V stepdown transformer, just as a precautionary measure. It's rated for 1.5 kVA, which should be more than enough to run all the Japanese LaserDisc players & MUSE decoders I'll ever have, plus it has multiple taps to allow rewiring it for different voltages or even to go the other way. It also has a switch on the front, which is handy.
Author:  admin [ 26 Feb 2012, 21:32 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer CLD-97 Help needed, step down converter
Which reminds me that I was for sale a custom-made (as in "on request") 220V->100V 1KVA converter I used while I was in Paris in 2003. Could safely run my A/V Amp + LD-S9 on it.

Got another one in Singapore last year, no need for me to carry around this heavy baby around the world, one is enough!

Julien
Author:  cpix [ 11 Apr 2012, 18:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer CLD-97 Help needed, step down converter
the japanese PSUs for both the R7G and S9, at least, have 120V printed on them, just as the american counter parts, so i think they actually use the exact same PSUs for the japanese players and american ones. i use a 230V->115V converter for my japanese and american players and console systems, without any issues.

edit: printed on the boards inside the player, not the outside.
Author:  admin [ 25 Apr 2012, 13:06 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer CLD-97 Help needed, step down converter
cpix wrote:
I think they actually use the exact same PSUs for the japanese players and american ones.


That doesn't work with the HLD-X9. It is expecting real 100V and will have weird video artefacts when used on a 110~115V power :thumbdown:

Julien
Author:  cpix [ 30 Apr 2012, 13:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Pioneer CLD-97 Help needed, step down converter
admin wrote:
cpix wrote:
I think they actually use the exact same PSUs for the japanese players and american ones.


That doesn't work with the HLD-X9. It is expecting real 100V and will have weird video artefacts when used on a 110~115V power :thumbdown:

Julien


Good to know! :)
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