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 Post subject: Purchase of a CLD-97 or CLD-959?
PostPosted: 28 Jan 2018, 02:34 
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have a friend who owns both players.
he wants to sell one of them to me.

should I buy or not is the big Q!?

what do you guys think about these players.
do any of you guys still own one of the 2 players?
what's your verdict?
do you still recommend them?
they both came out in 1992 and 1993 which is a very long time now!

should I expect dried out caps and other functioning performance issues?
both units are clean in showroom condition functioning very well however age takes out it's toll and might cause component issues?

thanks krbahr for the valuable intel :thumbup:
it's a good thing not to worry about the M-holder on cld-97 and cld-959
where there any other issues for the above players to keep an eye on, components like dried caps, rubber belt issues or rubber clamping gasket causing clamp to slip?
stuff like wear n tear issues

did the above players have ghosting or smear/crosstalk like some other high end players?
what about turn off DNR from menu settings?
was this possible to run without DNR on both players?


krbahr, when you open up the guts inside different players, you have noticed that some players have bulging and swollen caps
did some players of certain model years affect from swollen caps?
maybe early 90's players had better component quality than newer models?

my friend who's a geek when it comes to electronics and know how. :thumbup: :thumbup:
he told me a story similar to a James Bond plot when a chinese engineer stole the formula of ingredients for manufacturing capacitators.
this engineer stole the formula from some japanese company sometimes in the early to mid 90's or so and fled to China with this valuable formula.
japanese companies making caps didn't have the final ingredient to manufacture caps in proper way, therefore these components had a very short life span.
I have never heard of this story before, have you heard about this industrial component scandal?

It would have been a great script for a Hollywood blockbuster movie, good guys vs bad guys!


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 Post subject: Re: Purchase of a cld-97 or cld-959?
PostPosted: 28 Jan 2018, 04:37 
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Yep, some of the best players ever made. Buy for sure
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 Post subject: Re: Purchase of a CLD-97 or CLD-959?
PostPosted: 28 Jan 2018, 18:31 
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both these players 97/959 do they have a 2D comb filter?
how does CLD-97/959 reproduce pic quality on playback with it's comb filter if it turns out to be lesser than the 3D filter on CLD-R7G?

is it possible to say pic. quality for both players CLD-97/959 vs CLD-R7G, would they all play in the same league when comparing picture and comb filter?
R7G is a newer player than CLD-97/959, Pioneer improved their technology for every year when a new mid to high end model was released.
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Purchase of a CLD-97 or CLD-959?
PostPosted: 28 Jan 2018, 19:31 
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I've had a CLD-R7G and currently own a CLD-97. The 97 is the better player between the two. It has a much less noisy picture. The R7G has a much better comb filter with it being a 3D comb filter, but I've gotten better results feeding the 97 to a display with a good comb filter (the comb filter in my Sony WEGA KD-36XS955 is amazing and gives produces an amazing picture with the 97.)

The biggest downsides to the 97 are the slow side change and lack of factory RF out for Dolby Digital
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 Post subject: Re: Purchase of a CLD-97 or CLD-959?
PostPosted: 28 Jan 2018, 19:58 
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elahrairrah wrote:
I've had a CLD-R7G and currently own a CLD-97. The 97 is the better player between the two. It has a much less noisy picture. The R7G has a much better comb filter with it being a 3D comb filter, but I've gotten better results feeding the 97 to a display with a good comb filter (the comb filter in my Sony WEGA KD-36XS955 is amazing and gives produces an amazing picture with the 97.)

The biggest downsides to the 97 are the slow side change and lack of factory RF out for Dolby Digital


when 97/959 was released there was no audio standard for DD and DTS?
can these players still play LD's in normal stereo sound if the disc has DTS or DD?

my friend is a few hours away from me, I can't just go over there to see the stuff.
I have to plan a visit.
therefore my Q's for the menu system on 97 and 959, do they share the same features doing personal tweaks for DNR and other adjustments?
my main concern is if it's possible to completely turn off the DNR reproducing picture au naturalle?

I could live with slow like a turtle side changes as long as it doesn't take 1 minute or more to swap to side B
is 97/959 slow like X9 or slower?

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 Post subject: Re: Purchase of a CLD-97 or CLD-959?
PostPosted: 29 Jan 2018, 02:02 
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Every player made that has a digital output for the audio plays DTS. On the other hand DD needs an AC-3 RF output, that can be added to any player. It needs to be added to the 97 and 959.
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 Post subject: Re: Purchase of a CLD-97 or CLD-959?
PostPosted: 27 Feb 2020, 00:46 
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I'm hoping the 97 and 959 share the same tap points for the rf board?
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 Post subject: Re: Purchase of a CLD-97 or CLD-959?
PostPosted: 27 Feb 2020, 00:56 
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They should be the same as they’re basically the same thing except for cosmetics. I would think the CLD-95 would also share similarities w/ the 97
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