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Author:  plagueis [ 02 Feb 2019, 04:50 ]
Post subject:  [CLD-R5] Fine Wide
The CLD-R5 face-plate resembles the CLD-406, but the front has a button for 'Fine Wide'. Does anyone know what 'Fine Wide' is?

Two internet descriptions from previous ebay listings state, "Fine-wide image of cooked images even on wide screen" and "fine wide button to help make LaserDisc picture better". I'm not sure if I want my laserdisc images to look 'cooked' :lol: .

In all seriousness though, does it allow a 16:9 display to be attached without a scaler? Or is it a sharpening filter? I appreciate the help.
Author:  powerofld [ 02 Feb 2019, 06:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: CLD-R5 Fine Wide
Expansion of screen on 16: 9 TV
Image quality blurs when compared with 4: 3 TV

Fine-wide is the function of contour correction used at 16: 9 TV

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Player
Pioneer LD-1000(1981)
Pioneer LD-S1(1986)
Pioneer HLD-X0(1995)

Scaler
DVDO iSCAN DUO

Display
Pioneer KRP-500A(2008Final KURO)
Author:  powerofld [ 02 Feb 2019, 06:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: CLD-R5 Fine Wide
CLD-R5
It is a popular model

It is not a picture quality like a high-end machine

It is digitally processed and the image quality looks better
Author:  plagueis [ 02 Feb 2019, 20:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: CLD-R5 Fine Wide
powerofld wrote:
Fine-wide is the function of contour correction used at 16: 9 TV


Does it crop the image or does it stretch the edges of the picture? For example, do you lose the top and bottom of the picture when watching a 4:3 laserdisc?
Author:  takeshi666 [ 02 Feb 2019, 21:20 ]
Post subject:  Re: CLD-R5 Fine Wide
plagueis wrote:
powerofld wrote:
Fine-wide is the function of contour correction used at 16: 9 TV


Does it crop the image or does it stretch the edges of the picture? For example, do you lose the top and bottom of the picture when watching a 4:3 laserdisc?

I kind of wonder. If you have a widescreen TV set, especially in the days when anamorphic widescreen was not the norm, shouldn't you be able to stretch the picture on the TV itself? Wouldn't it make more sense to have the player generate black bars for squeeze titles so you can view them on a 4:3 set?
Author:  rein-o [ 02 Feb 2019, 21:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: CLD-R5 Fine Wide
Squeeze discs have either a partial black bar or none.

If the film was 1.85 it was squeezed to fit a 4x3 screen, it looks distorted and you need to stretch and fill your 16x9 set.
Films that were shot 2.35 would have very thin black bars on the top and bottom.
Author:  plagueis [ 05 Feb 2019, 04:50 ]
Post subject:  Re: CLD-R5 Fine Wide
powerofld wrote:
Expansion of screen on 16: 9 TV
Image quality blurs when compared with 4: 3 TV

Fine-wide is the function of contour correction used at 16: 9 TV

Do you know what method of contour applies to a 4:3 film on a 16:9 monitor, by chance? Thanks again.
Author:  rein-o [ 05 Feb 2019, 04:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: CLD-R5 Fine Wide
plagueis wrote:
powerofld wrote:
Expansion of screen on 16: 9 TV
Image quality blurs when compared with 4: 3 TV

Fine-wide is the function of contour correction used at 16: 9 TV

Do you know what method of contour applies to a 4:3 film on a 16:9 monitor, by chance? Thanks again.

What options do you have???
Each set is different.

Mine have an actual 4.3, zoom, stretch settings.
Yours will be different.
Author:  powerofld [ 05 Feb 2019, 05:18 ]
Post subject:  Re: CLD-R5 Fine Wide
The detailed written about the fine wide in the instruction manual

I think that it is not a high-performance one that is so effective

Since there is contour correction in the instruction manual,
I think that it is a sharpness effect

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Author:  rein-o [ 05 Feb 2019, 15:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: CLD-R5 Fine Wide
Oh, I thought you were asking about your TV set.
Just try one and then the other, you like it or don't like it.
Author:  plagueis [ 06 Feb 2019, 00:53 ]
Post subject:  Re: CLD-R5 Fine Wide
rein-o wrote:
Oh, I thought you were asking about your TV set.
Just try one and then the other, you like it or don't like it.


I was indeed asking what the LD player did, not my own TV :D

powerofld wrote:
The detailed written about the fine wide in the instruction manual

I think that it is not a high-performance one that is so effective

Since there is contour correction in the instruction manual,
I think that it is a sharpness effect


This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you powerofld!
Author:  jarasrat [ 17 Feb 2019, 21:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: CLD-R5 Fine Wide
plagueis wrote:
The CLD-R5 face-plate resembles the CLD-406, but the front has a button for 'Fine Wide'. Does anyone know what 'Fine Wide' is?

Two internet descriptions from previous ebay listings state, "Fine-wide image of cooked images even on wide screen" and "fine wide button to help make LaserDisc picture better". I'm not sure if I want my laserdisc images to look 'cooked' :lol: .

In all seriousness though, does it allow a 16:9 display to be attached without a scaler? Or is it a sharpening filter? I appreciate the help.


I have both CLD-R5 and CLD-D606. Fine Wide button on R5 is very similar to sharpness control button on CLD-D606. The picture quality is about the same as CLD-D606.
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