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Video Signal to Noise Ratio: CLD-D704 vs CLV-W901
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Author:  naiaru [ 07 Apr 2012, 02:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Video Signal to Noise Ratio: CLD-D704 vs CLV-W901
signofzeta wrote:
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I ran both players through S-Video into my Onkyo TX-NR1008 receiver. This receiver upconverts the picture to 1080p before sending the signal to my full HD television via HDMI.


Yeah, that's way too much modern day garbage involved to ever be able to see the improvement. I'm not saying one player isn't better than the other, I'm just saying that with all that signal conversion going on what you are looking at is...not just an LD image. The SNR isn't relevant.

Its like saying, "I bought the Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab 180g LP version of Marvin Gaye's - What's Going On and I can't really see how it sounds better than the original pressing. BTW, I've recorded both using a Ion USB turntable, converted them to MP3, and I'm listening to them on Bose Quite Comfort noise canceling headphones."

You've messed with the signal SO MUCH that the subtleties of the source are buried under multiple generations of signal amplification and digital artifacting. You heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy who heard it from a guy.

I run my LD signal through a CC decoder (though in theory that shouldn't do too much), a DVD recorder and a scaler and I can still tell the difference between a 700 model and a 600. So, I don't think that's the culprit here.
Author:  lizardkingjr [ 07 Apr 2012, 16:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: Video Signal to Noise Ratio: CLD-D704 vs CLV-W901
publius wrote:
lizardkingjr wrote:
Which one, specifically?

I believe "Shopping Mall Japan" does. If you look around, there may be others.

Okay. Thank you.

TLK :cool:
Author:  signofzeta [ 08 Apr 2012, 05:58 ]
Post subject:  Re: Video Signal to Noise Ratio: CLD-D704 vs CLV-W901
naiaru wrote:
I run my LD signal through a CC decoder (though in theory that shouldn't do too much), a DVD recorder and a scaler and I can still tell the difference between a 700 model and a 600. So, I don't think that's the culprit here.


I'm curious. Which CC decoder are you using? I've been looking for one with s-video and they all seem to be rather expensive pro models.
Author:  naiaru [ 08 Apr 2012, 06:34 ]
Post subject:  Re: Video Signal to Noise Ratio: CLD-D704 vs CLV-W901
signofzeta wrote:
naiaru wrote:
I run my LD signal through a CC decoder (though in theory that shouldn't do too much), a DVD recorder and a scaler and I can still tell the difference between a 700 model and a 600. So, I don't think that's the culprit here.


I'm curious. Which CC decoder are you using? I've been looking for one with s-video and they all seem to be rather expensive pro models.

Right now, I'm using this one.

If you want S-video, there's the Link IEC-788, some of the later TV Guardian models and the CC100S (if you can find one). There's also the LINK IEC-785, but that's RGB.
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