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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: Harman Kardon ADP-303 Digital output  Posted: 15 Aug 2019, 20:02 |
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dvdmike007 wrote: I know the models, thanks. But in the UK I would not call a single one of them reasonably priced. Which tells me there are smarter people in Europe than in the Americas when it comes to knowing the value of a rare commodity. If you go ahead w/ the ADP- 303 mod, it will still be worth it in that case. Been thinking of getting the Marantz equivalent to fumble around modding it but can’t find it cheap enough to make it worth my while right now.
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Post subject: Re: Harman Kardon ADP-303 Digital output  Posted: 27 Oct 2020, 01:52 |
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Cool What pin on what chip does this point go to? I have been researching the Marantz version (DP-870) and can't decide if pin 35 (Data-O) or Pin 39 (DO) would be the right point off of the DA1 chip (LC8904Q). This is what I would hope is the point after input switching.
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ldfan
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Post subject: Re: Harman Kardon ADP-303 Digital output  Posted: 28 Oct 2020, 07:55 |
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Did more research on that DA1 chip and now I am thinking the digital out could be pin 1. Here is a schematic I found on the chip.  On the schematic for the Marantz, DP-870, the pin is currently not connected to anything so that could be a good hint it's the correct point.
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Post subject: Re: Harman Kardon ADP-303 Digital output  Posted: 29 Oct 2020, 00:05 |
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ldfan wrote: On the schematic for the Marantz, DP-870, the pin is currently not connected to anything so that could be a good hint it's the correct point. Same for the ADP303. I definitely overlooked that. I might give it a shot.
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Post subject: Re: Harman Kardon ADP-303 Digital output  Posted: 30 Oct 2020, 21:50 |
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cplusplus wrote: Interesting on the DB25 connector. It looks like it is just 5.1 out though from the SM. The DB25 was the other option to having six standard RCA cables mated from a processor to an AV Receiver or AV Pre-Amp. They essentially function in the same manner. There is still no digital output from a DB-25. If one ends up w/ the ED-901, you can make or even purchase an adapter that goes from DB-25 to six RCA cables. Here is an example of one... https://www.infinitecables.com/audio-an ... hx-pinout/cplusplus wrote: I wish we could get a kit made (printed board, passive components, and enclosure) where all we would have to do is solder a donor Pioneer demodulation IC. Now I'm thinking these processors that utilize the LC8904Q chip are not designed to accommodate with any ease the inclusion of a digital output. I know that the kit I purchased to add a digital out to my CLD-M90 had a very extensive list of chips that would work with it but not the LC8904Q. At most, the digital out signal on LC8904Q might be coming off of several pins that might need to be combined in a special manner on a secondary board to create a proper S/PDIF digital signal. Gotta do more research on it.
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Post subject: Re: Harman Kardon ADP-303 Digital output  Posted: 31 Oct 2020, 21:14 |
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ldfan wrote: cplusplus wrote: Interesting on the DB25 connector. It looks like it is just 5.1 out though from the SM. The DB25 was the other option to having six standard RCA cables mated from a processor to an AV Receiver or AV Pre-Amp. They essentially function in the same manner. There is still no digital output from a DB-25. If one ends up w/ the ED-901, you can make or even purchase an adapter that goes from DB-25 to six RCA cables. Here is an example of one... https://www.infinitecables.com/audio-an ... hx-pinout/cplusplus wrote: I wish we could get a kit made (printed board, passive components, and enclosure) where all we would have to do is solder a donor Pioneer demodulation IC. Now I'm thinking these processors that utilize the LC8904Q chip are not designed to accommodate with any ease the inclusion of a digital output. I know that the kit I purchased to add a digital out to my CLD-M90 had a very extensive list of chips that would work with it but not the LC8904Q. At most, the digital out signal on LC8904Q might be coming off of several pins that might need to be combined in special manner on a secondary board to create a proper S/PDIF digital signal. Gotta do more research on it. expensive cables! even has the wrong male DB-25 connector.... need female to rca if you want to set it up that way.I it is for use towards a receiver I think.... 5.1rca out to db-25 input I have no use for the ed-901 tbh. but I might add a digital output just for the sake of science...
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Post subject: Re: Harman Kardon ADP-303 Digital output  Posted: 13 Sep 2021, 14:46 |
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cplusplus wrote: I'm getting working AC-3 directly from PD4606A pin 65. From what I have seen, if you do digital coax you would really need to make a small board for all of the downstream components. I'm going to go the TOSLINK route, so I think I can just add the connector and tap VCC and GND and be good?
This is all based on my (probably incorrect) reading of the APD-1 service manual. Did you get this working CPP ?
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Post subject: Re: Harman Kardon ADP-303 Digital output  Posted: 28 Sep 2021, 03:53 |
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Oooooooh, I'm in on this! I have a Yamaha DDP-1 that needs to have this mod installed. So to recap, pin 65 on the chip? Then connect my grounds (one from coax pigtail and the other from the +5V power lead?) I'm using this - https://www.ebay.com/itm/323774426627?V ... 3774426627This would be so cool and really bring up the popularity of processors since they could go from 5.1 out only to a digital out.
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