It is currently 04 Apr 2020, 22:17




 Page 2 of 3 [ 49 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 16 Dec 2018, 16:20 
Hardcore fan
Hardcore fan
User avatar

Joined: 01 Feb 2018, 02:41
Posts: 1290
Location: Finland
Has thanked: 42 times
Been thanked: 95 times
You're only stupid if you don't do your research first and choose to spend your money before you even know what you're getting yourself into.

By the way, does a MUSE decoder with a built-in LD+G decoder exist?
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 16 Dec 2018, 16:23 
Young Padawan
Young Padawan
User avatar

Joined: 16 May 2009, 18:05
Posts: 3158
Location: MA USA
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 85 times
takeshi666 wrote:
You're only stupid if you don't do your research first and choose to spend your money before you even know what you're getting yourself into.

By the way, does a MUSE decoder with a built-in LD+G decoder exist?



No offense but this is ironic. You said do your own research and asked if any muse decoder has ldg built in in the same post ;) but no decoder with ldg i am afraid.
_________________
Wanted
HD-VMD Discs
Hi-Vision/Muse Discs Only complete/mint!
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 16 Dec 2018, 17:36 
Hardcore fan
Hardcore fan
User avatar

Joined: 01 Feb 2018, 02:41
Posts: 1290
Location: Finland
Has thanked: 42 times
Been thanked: 95 times
substance wrote:
No offense but this is ironic. You said do your own research and asked if any muse decoder has ldg built in in the same post ;) but no decoder with ldg i am afraid.

Well I am doing my research, I'm asking questions aren't I?

Besides, I'm not even in the business of buying one.
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 16 Dec 2018, 17:53 
Young Padawan
Young Padawan
User avatar

Joined: 16 May 2009, 18:05
Posts: 3158
Location: MA USA
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 85 times
takeshi666 wrote:
substance wrote:
No offense but this is ironic. You said do your own research and asked if any muse decoder has ldg built in in the same post ;) but no decoder with ldg i am afraid.

Well I am doing my research, I'm asking questions aren't I?

Besides, I'm not even in the business of buying one.


I had a smiley there. I was sarcastic ;) I answered your question though
_________________
Wanted
HD-VMD Discs
Hi-Vision/Muse Discs Only complete/mint!
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 18 Dec 2018, 21:35 
Honest fan
Honest fan
User avatar

Joined: 17 Apr 2015, 20:34
Posts: 79
Location: United States
Has thanked: 6 times
Been thanked: 5 times
Which was released first? The X9 or the X0?
_________________
Deleted Extended & Alternate footage from Certain Laserdiscs
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 18 Dec 2018, 22:45 
Young Padawan
Young Padawan
User avatar

Joined: 16 May 2009, 18:05
Posts: 3158
Location: MA USA
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 85 times
kt7000 wrote:
Which was released first? The X9 or the X0?


X0 first and X9 a year later
_________________
Wanted
HD-VMD Discs
Hi-Vision/Muse Discs Only complete/mint!
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 18 Dec 2018, 22:46 
Site Admin
Site Admin
User avatar

Joined: 07 Aug 2002, 23:37
Posts: 2746
Location: Tokyo
Has thanked: 93 times
Been thanked: 230 times
kt7000 wrote:
Which was released first? The X9 or the X0?


HLD-X0 first, single-sided, in 1995.
HLD-X9 later, double-sided, in 1996.

Julien
_________________
LDDb on Facebook!
HLD-X0/X9 | LG-1 RFD-1 MSC-4000 | Lumagen 2144
DHS-8.8 | Oppo 205 | SL-1200G
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 19 Dec 2018, 01:46 
True fan
True fan
User avatar

Joined: 11 Oct 2015, 16:35
Posts: 484
Location: United States
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 28 times
X9 lasted longer though so you can potentially find one made in 2000.
_________________
Panasonic LX-HD20
Sony HIL-C2EX
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 19 Dec 2018, 04:04 
Young Padawan
Young Padawan
User avatar

Joined: 16 May 2009, 18:05
Posts: 3158
Location: MA USA
Has thanked: 7 times
Been thanked: 85 times
pbiancardi wrote:
X9 lasted longer though so you can potentially find one made in 2000.


Actually production continued until 2002 for x9 but they made something like 50 player in that year.

1999 was the last year x0 was manufactured. They made a total of 1500 units between 1995 and 1999. I believe something like 1350 were made in 1995 and 1996.
_________________
Wanted
HD-VMD Discs
Hi-Vision/Muse Discs Only complete/mint!
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 19 Dec 2018, 04:13 
Jedi Knight
Jedi Knight
User avatar

Joined: 14 Jan 2010, 09:44
Posts: 4237
Location: United States
Has thanked: 195 times
Been thanked: 323 times
Does it have an hour meter? I ask because I’d be way more interested in that than five years either way on something 20 years old.
Online
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 19 Dec 2018, 04:25 
Jedi Master
Jedi Master
User avatar

Joined: 03 May 2004, 19:05
Posts: 6268
Location: United States
Has thanked: 220 times
Been thanked: 208 times
Interesting, my cheapy projector has one, would have been cool to have such a device of some type on LD players but I think they were too old???

I do remember that arcade games had it but once you unplugged them you lost that, so you had to add some type of battery inside the machine to keep some
power to the board to keep such info.
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 19 Dec 2018, 04:55 
Advanced fan
Advanced fan
User avatar

Joined: 16 Jun 2015, 15:40
Posts: 745
Location: Australia
Has thanked: 52 times
Been thanked: 61 times
substance wrote:
pbiancardi wrote:
X9 lasted longer though so you can potentially find one made in 2000.


Actually production continued until 2002 for x9 but they made something like 50 player in that year.


Nicolas Santini's old site quotes May 2002 as the last X9 production.
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:09 
True fan
True fan
User avatar

Joined: 11 Oct 2015, 16:35
Posts: 484
Location: United States
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 28 times
I'd be curious / worried if previous owner(s) played a lot of Muse discs since I assume that the faster RPMs could **potentially** cause more wear and tear than standard LDs.
_________________
Panasonic LX-HD20
Sony HIL-C2EX
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 19 Dec 2018, 13:53 
Advanced fan
Advanced fan
User avatar

Joined: 16 Jun 2015, 15:40
Posts: 745
Location: Australia
Has thanked: 52 times
Been thanked: 61 times
pbiancardi wrote:
I'd be curious / worried if previous owner(s) played a lot of Muse discs since I assume that the faster RPMs could **potentially** cause more wear and tear than standard LDs.

Perhaps on the spindle motor and bearings to a small degree, oh and the rubber grip ring too, but don't see how beyond that.
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2019, 12:59 
Second post
Second post
User avatar

Joined: 15 Mar 2010, 20:50
Posts: 2
Location: Yugoslavia
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time
Could Victor HR-W5 W-VHS recorder be used as a Muse decoder?
Image
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2019, 13:09 
Advanced fan
Advanced fan
User avatar

Joined: 16 Jun 2015, 15:40
Posts: 745
Location: Australia
Has thanked: 52 times
Been thanked: 61 times
No.

W-VHS does not decode or record a muse signal.
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2019, 13:20 
Second post
Second post
User avatar

Joined: 15 Mar 2010, 20:50
Posts: 2
Location: Yugoslavia
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 0 time
audioboyz1973 wrote:
No.

W-VHS does not decode or record a muse signal.

Thank you for a prompt respond.
I do not want to argue with you but:
Quote:
Video cassettes
W-VHS allowed home recording of Hi-Vision programmes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_ ... g_encoding
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 31 Jul 2019, 14:06 
Advanced fan
Advanced fan
User avatar

Joined: 16 Jun 2015, 15:40
Posts: 745
Location: Australia
Has thanked: 52 times
Been thanked: 61 times
Yes it allowed you to record them in (low bandwidth for HD) 1035i from the component video output of a muse decoder. W-VHS decks do not record or decode the muse signal.

Try this wiki page instead https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W-VHS or better still try the Japanese version which is much more informative https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/W-VHS

Edit: while I understand W-VHS is capable of 1035i as per the HD spec of the time, if we're talking a signal that has undergone muse compression then it would be 1032i (the next lower multiple of four).
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 10 Nov 2019, 13:38 
Advanced fan
Advanced fan
User avatar

Joined: 08 Dec 2015, 01:43
Posts: 523
Location: Japan
Has thanked: 18 times
Been thanked: 37 times
I don't know so much about MUSE, but on this tape recorder, there is clearly a MUSE in (black) and a MUSE out (Green blue red). It's also clearly written in japanese "MUSE Decoder".
_________________
LD-X1 (NTSC)
LD-V4300D (PAL/NTSC)
CLD-959 (NTSC)
CXUHD (DVD/BD/UHD/SACD)
Lumagen 2144 (scaler)
Collection
Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: MUSE Decoder....
PostPosted: 11 Nov 2019, 05:25 
Advanced fan
Advanced fan
User avatar

Joined: 16 Jun 2015, 15:40
Posts: 745
Location: Australia
Has thanked: 52 times
Been thanked: 61 times
mimylovesjapan wrote:
I don't know so much about MUSE, but on this tape recorder, there is clearly a MUSE in (black) and a MUSE out (Green blue red). It's also clearly written in japanese "MUSE Decoder".


At the bottom there is a component (Green, Blue Red) 'HD" input (入力) (which accepts the component output from the Muse decoder and is so labelled). There is also a component "HD" output (出力) to the right. There are of course matching audio connectors.

The black connectors at the top are for AFC input (not a muse signal input) and the other is an output. I'm not familiar with these additional black connectors on Japanese VCR's, which there are some for BS
decoders as well. Perhaps someone more familiar with the Japanese BS system and VCR's of the era can explain them.

But trust me; W-VHS does not record a Muse signal on the tape and the VCR does not have a Muse decoder built in.
Offline
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
 Page 2 of 3 [ 49 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: