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Author:  Guest [ 19 Feb 2013, 04:47 ]
Post subject:  Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
Hey guys I am wanting to get a nice THX A/V receiver for my home theater. I have a nice Pioneer laserdisc player with the AC-C output. I also have a Pioneer Elite DVD player that up converts and a nice LG Bluray player. My current A/V receiver is a Pioneer AHK-1019 that has HDMI inputs and outputs. I like the receiver but would love to find an older THX receiver that has HDMI and AC-3. Does anyone know if something like this was made and if so who made them and what are the model numbers?

Thanks,
Paul Kepner
Author:  signofzeta [ 19 Feb 2013, 04:57 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
AC-3 RF inputs disappeared long before HDMI was even invented. You'll need either a stand alone RF demodulator or a unit like the Harmon Kardon 303 which splits it into six line level signals (and a receiver that can take multi channel inputs).
Author:  integra [ 19 Feb 2013, 05:17 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
If you can get a Harman Kardon ADP-303 really cheap, do it!
It's easy to do a modification so the ADP-303 gets a digital output and you don't need a multichannel input on the receiver
Author:  lons_vex [ 19 Feb 2013, 10:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
Or you spent some money and buy a Pioneer SC-LX90 which has AC3-RF and HDMI.

http://www.pustan.com/test/sclx90_rear.jpg
Author:  integra [ 19 Feb 2013, 12:42 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
WOW! :shock: :o
Author:  substance [ 19 Feb 2013, 14:46 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
just to let you know LX-90 or SC-09(US model) does not upscale digital sources. HDMI inputs are passthrough only. Front display only shows analog video.
Author:  laserbite34 [ 19 Feb 2013, 16:39 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
lons_vex
Can you reduce the picture down a little bit please for those of us who don't have IMAX screens. :lol:

35.5kg its a mild back breaker to lift.
Image

The link is the same as above diffrent site but image is TOO LARGE!
http://www.avland.co.uk/pioneer/sclx90/rearlrg.jpg

http://www.avland.co.uk/aasp/pioneer/08 ... sclx90.asp
Author:  signofzeta [ 19 Feb 2013, 18:56 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
Wow. I had no idea such a thing existed.
Author:  Guest [ 19 Feb 2013, 21:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
Are there any nice THX receivers with AC-3 input that at least have component in and out? I want to get one to run my
laserdisc player with. It seems as thought the stand along decoders cost almost as much as the older receivers I have found.
I can't seem to find a receiver that decodes THX and AC-3. I would prefer Pioneer since most of my equipment is that but I am open
to other good makes and models.

Thanks again!
Paul Kepner
Author:  circlesky73 [ 19 Feb 2013, 23:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
Assigned inputs for laserdisc *and* blu-ray??? That is pretty effin' sweet!
Author:  laser_cinema [ 20 Feb 2013, 02:24 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
pkepneriv wrote:
Are there any nice THX receivers with AC-3 input that at least have component in and out? I want to get one to run my
laserdisc player with. It seems as thought the stand along decoders cost almost as much as the older receivers I have found.
I can't seem to find a receiver that decodes THX and AC-3. I would prefer Pioneer since most of my equipment is that but I am open
to other good makes and models.

Thanks again!
Paul Kepner



Hi Paul,

if i may suggest, look here: http://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=266

That's a list with all units that have an AC3-RF input. With a little research maybe you'll find the AVR that perfectly fits your needs /wishes and harmonize with your existing components.

Thanks to this list i've found mine, too.

Most of the Pioneer AVR's listed there are THX certified, have component in/out but no Decoders for HD-audio. Maybe the Pioneer SC-09TX is the "Highlander"-one with HDMI.

BIG THANKS to tkmedia for his efforts
Author:  signofzeta [ 20 Feb 2013, 04:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
I would make sure you have a full understanding of what "THX" really means before you go out of your way to get a certain receiver. For example, there is no "THX decoding". THX features range from things like specially cooked flavors of Dolby Pro Logic to certain equalization features to "nothing but a logo" depending on the player. There is nothing "THX" on the discs and therefore nothing to decode.

...as far as I know anyway.
Author:  disclord [ 20 Feb 2013, 04:44 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
signofzeta wrote:
I would make sure you have a full understanding of what "THX" really means before you go out of your way to get a certain receiver. For example, there is no "THX decoding". THX features range from things like specially cooked flavors of Dolby Pro Logic to certain equalization features to "nothing but a logo" depending on the player. There is nothing "THX" on the discs and therefore nothing to decode.

...as far as I know anyway.


You are correct - THX technologies applied to the surrounds, like timbre matching, are psychoacoustically incorrect, as is the adaptive decorrelation of the surrounds - and most films do not need re-EQ and for those that do, most non-THX receivers have an equivalent circuit. There is no such thing as THX encoding nor is it a format of any kind. It's something that is simply not needed on a receiver. The THX badge doesn't imply build quality either - while the THX standards for amps and such are stringent, they do not guarantee that the amp is built well. THX is a marketing program - it started out with some truly admirable goals but the desire to make more money destroyed the brand. Tom Holman, the inventor of THX, left the THX company because they were licensing VHS and Pan/scan transfers - and computer speakers and car stereos.
Author:  tomtastic [ 20 Feb 2013, 17:10 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
$7000 for the SC-09 and it's not 3D ready, only HDMI 1.3a. Just buy a demod or processor.
Author:  elieb [ 23 Feb 2013, 02:49 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
signofzeta wrote:
Wow. I had no idea such a thing existed.


i had no clue as well. it's a tank, i can tell you that.
Author:  disclord [ 23 Feb 2013, 03:11 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
Denon has done the same with a receiver that had, if I remember correctly, 16 amps in it, all fully assignable so you could Bi- or Tri-amp a system - I think it weighed 90 pounds. I'm not sure if they still offer it - I think its price was over $7,000. It was so tall it looked like it was anamorphic when compared to their standard receivers.
Author:  elieb [ 23 Feb 2013, 03:15 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
that's WAY over my price limit and too heavy for me.
Author:  disclord [ 23 Feb 2013, 03:26 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
We'll be waiting for your purchase decision with Antici...
Author:  signofzeta [ 23 Feb 2013, 06:16 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
Its way over my price limit* but not too heavy.



*assuming it doesn't show up on Craigslist for $80 tomorrow, which is certainly possible.
Author:  disclord [ 23 Feb 2013, 07:02 ]
Post subject:  Re: Any A/V receivers made with AC-3 and HDMI inputs?
Yup - Although my main receiver is a Denon AVR-3808 (I have yet to update the firmware in it to the Audyssey Volume and other new features Denon added), I still use my Pioneer VSX-9300 from 1988, which was the first receiver to have Pro-Logic built in, and also still use my VSX-D1S receiver from 1991 - the amp's power on relays in the D1S are getting slow, taking a few minutes to click on, but its okay otherwise and the digital DSP-based Pro-Logic decoding still sounds great (it uses fixed 18-bit 44.1k DSP processing which outdid Lexicon's DSP at the time). Plus the preamp in's and out's make both receivers very useful for extra power amplification when needed.

You can get Denon's AVR-3800 for a few hundred dollars on eBay now - it was Denon's very top receiver in the early 2000's and has AC-3 RF, DTS-ES, THX, etc... Plus a touch screen remote. Superbly engineered and sounds great - and I've seen them go for less than $400 - I think they cost $4,000 originally. Although they won't do True HD and DTS-HD or have HDMI, they have component and every other type of input/output - especially ones that matter for LaserDisc. Gobs of power too.
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