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 Post subject: Re: Sega Saturn
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2021, 21:14 
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Don't know if I'm posting this to the wrong place or not. But anyway.

I recently bought a Saturn for myself. Finally having enough of the 32x stopgap. (And definitely not because I'm afraid Segata Sanshiro is gonna kill me if I don't have one.)

Anyway the first game I'm planning on getting for it is definitely Virtua Fighter 2. The next game after that is going to be Tomb Raider. After that I'm planning on getting one of those action replay carts to make my Saturn region free. (the model that I got is the second European one)

Anyway what games should I be looking to get after that? Personally I'm mostly interested in fighting games (both 2d and 3d) and racing games. Off course I'm not just going to stick to those to genres.

Anyway hopefully I don't look like a dummy that posted this to the wrong place.


Are you planning to buy games only and not burn? This matters for my recommendations because while games like Elevator Action Returns are awesome, they are also rather pricey now.

Some that I recommend that should still be reasonable: Puzzle Bobble 3, Digital Pinball Necronomicon, Digital Pinball: Last Gladiators, Twinbee Deluxe Pack, Daytona USA, Sega Rally, Outrun, Touge King of Spirits, Drift King 97, Road Rash, Vampire Hunter, Vampire Savior, X-Men vs. Street Fighter, Marvel Super Heroes vs. Street Fighter, King of Fighters 97, various Street Fighter games, Chase HQ.
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 Post subject: Re: Sega Saturn
PostPosted: 21 Feb 2021, 21:19 
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When it comes to these cd based games I try to stick to official games. It largely depends on how expensive the game is if I'll burn it or not. 50-80 euros is the spot where I'll at least burn a disc as a demo to see if it's worth it. But the moment the real deal costs over 100 euros I shed no tears burning a game. So I plan on getting official games but if there's a really good but pricy game then a verbatin 700mb disc does just fine.
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 Post subject: Re: Sega Saturn
PostPosted: 22 Feb 2021, 00:11 
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Okay cool these are all games I really recommend.

Elevator Action Returns, Crows the Battle Action, Hyper Duel, Magic Knight Rayearth, Dragon Force, Keio Yugekitai, Shinrei Jusatsushi Taromaru, Sokko Seitokai: Sonic Council, Super Tempo, Tryrush Deppy, Blast Wind, Castlevania Symphony of the Night, Astra Superstars, Death Crimson, Twinkle Star Sprites, Bulk Slash, Nekketsu Oyako.

All awesome games, all pretty unreasonable to buy now. I think I spelled them all right, but there could be some errors. The Saturn has tons of awesome games in general, it's a great console.
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 Post subject: Re: Sega Saturn
PostPosted: 22 Feb 2021, 00:54 
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Just checked out the price for Castlevania dracula x. And dang it's expensive. When just the disc only costs 90 euros plus shipping. And the playstation version isn't much cheaper either. (well it's not eye popping expensive considering I also happen to own a Mega CD and it has bunch of really expensive games.)

This is why I held off of getting a Saturn for so long and stuck just with the Mega Drive and it's add ons. The 3d games from this era have largely not aged that well. And since the 2d stuff was seen as outdated at the time and thus didn't sell that well compared to 3d games. Which is why some of the good 2d games have become quite expensive.

Luckily from my own research and the titles you have recommended to me, clearly show that the Saturn still has a large library of good games that won't make me sell my kidney or god forbid my Sega tower of power. So I won't have to go full pirate just to enjoy it's library. Part of me now wishes I hadn't written off Saturn and gotten it earlier.
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 Post subject: Re: Sega Saturn
PostPosted: 22 Feb 2021, 01:21 
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Just checked out the price for Castlevania dracula x. And dang it's expensive. When just the disc only costs 90 euros plus shipping. And the playstation version isn't much cheaper either. (well it's not eye popping expensive considering I also happen to own a Mega CD and it has bunch of really expensive games.)

This is why I held off of getting a Saturn for so long and stuck just with the Mega Drive and it's add ons. The 3d games from this era have largely not aged that well. And since the 2d stuff was seen as outdated at the time and thus didn't sell that well compared to 3d games. Which is why some of the good 2d games have become quite expensive.

Luckily from my own research and the titles you have recommended to me, clearly show that the Saturn still has a large library of good games that won't make me sell my kidney or god forbid my Sega tower of power. So I won't have to go full pirate just to enjoy it's library. Part of me now wishes I hadn't written off Saturn and gotten it earlier.


Dracula X, like Tomb Raider, is better on other systems. I'd pick the PS1 version of this game any day of the week, and I'm not a Playstation fan at all, any Playstation.

While the Saturn has some expensive games (Psychic Killer Taromaru was super hard to find from the day it was released) there are also games like Pocket Fighter or Panzer Zwei which are extremely affordable and excellent. Nearly all the RPGs and strategy games are worthless on the used market so if you can enjoy them, go for it. World Advanced, Giren's Greed, Sakura Wars, all very nice games.

One very Sega Saturn sort of Sega Saturn game I can't recommend enough is Guardian Heroes. I've cleared this game dozens of times with friends. Another game that nobody ever mentions is Three Dirty Dwarves, a three player beat-em-em-up with very original western style animation. Very good sense of humor, I don't know if this was released outside of the US or how expensive is. Most of my Saturn collection was acquired years and years ago...

EDIT: Some quick research has shown me that Three Dirty Dwarves is not an affordable game anymore. :) It was before Youtube, I swear! I bought it on clearance, $10-15 probably.
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 Post subject: Re: Sega Saturn
PostPosted: 22 Feb 2021, 02:09 
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Sakura Wars is great. The fan translation is quite good.
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 Post subject: Re: Sega Saturn
PostPosted: 23 Feb 2021, 23:30 
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The Saturn finally arrived. (I can finally stop fearing for my safety, that Segata Sanshiro is gonna beat the crap out of me)

The console seems to work alright. I don't own any games yet (Virtua Fighter 2 is currently in shipping) but I was able to play a music cd just fine. The console does need a cleanup as it's quite dirty.

Anyway it came with 3 controllers (two official and one third party.) The official ones are both model 1 and 2. This came as a surprise as the listing only had a picture of one model 2 controller. So I assumed both of these would be model 2's.

The third party controller is called ST2. And I think I might prefer it over the two official ones. You see this controller is basically the japanese 6 button mega drive controller with a left shoulder button added. And I love the design of the 6 button Mega Drive controller and was somewhat disappointed with the two Saturn controllers. They felt like a downgrade rather than an improvement over the 6 button Mega Drive controller.

Unfortunately the 3rd party controller is not perfect. Because it's a copy of the japanese Mega Drive controller it's rather small. I would have liked it to be the size of the western 6 button controller. It's d-pad is also quite cheap. I think in the future I might buy an another european/american 6 button Mega Drive controller and swap it's board with this one. I think it might be possible considering the screw holes are in the exact same spots with these two controllers. Though I would need to add an another hole for the left shoulder button. Then I'd have (in my opinion) the perfect Saturn controller.

I also decided to get fighters megamix as my second Saturn game rather than Tomb Raider. It especially looks like a must own for me. And btw thank you for your recommendations. Some of them are already on my list of games I'll get in the future.
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 Post subject: Re: Sega Saturn
PostPosted: 24 Feb 2021, 02:01 
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I’m not sure what you mean by models 1 and 2. Did Europe get the same crap redesigned pads as the US did?

In Japan there is only one pad and it’s as nearly flawless as anything. There are a number of color variants but they are all the same.

Because Sega of America SUCKED they designed a new controller for the US that almost nobody prefers (it’s slippery and has edges all over it but is still not bad really...). When the round button Saturns hit the US they gave up their stupid idea and just started shipping normal Japanese versions. Because of this some fans call them by versions 1 and 2 but if anything the numbers are the reverse of that; the better pad is the older one. My friends and I just call Saturn pads “Saturn pads” and the US ones “US Saturn pads” since the US ones are far less common, are weird, never should have been made, etc.
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 Post subject: Re: Sega Saturn
PostPosted: 24 Feb 2021, 03:44 
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In the US we got the large pad (model 1 ) with the original oval buttons and then got the smaller Japanese pad (model 2 ) round button model (model 2 otherwise there has been only one model of pad as far as I'm aware to go with both models of the console except as stated above.
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 Post subject: Re: Sega Saturn
PostPosted: 24 Feb 2021, 03:56 
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Yeah, I guess if when you say “model 1” you’re referring to the console it came with and not the pad itself that makes sense. The Japanese Saturn came out first though and it had the same pads from day one that would become the only pad world wide rather quickly (when the silver Saturn turned white in Japan). Chronologically the US pad came later and is the revision on the original.

The Saturn was a popular import item and by then we had the internet and Die Hard and NCS all that stuff so pretty much everyone who was buying games back then on a hardcore level was aware of the US pads being their own f-ed up b*****d thing that almost nobody* prefers. This more or less marked the end of the days of calling a system by different names in different regions...no way to keep the Famicom a Japanese secret for 2-3 years, like in the old days.

Microsoft must have had some old SoA people working there though since the original XBox had a weirdly similar thing going on in reverse. They designed a smaller pad for Japan that eventually became the worldwide standard...although world-wide may be stretching it since the XBox sold *so* poorly in Japan (sometimes single digest sales per week!) that the US Saturn market would have to be seen as a roaring success by comparison.




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