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 Post subject: Investment Graded VHS ?!?
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2023, 08:39 
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OK... I'm super confused as how people brains operate internally.

I got a email request asking me if there was "grading service" for sealed laserdiscs...

I had honestly no clue what it even meant. Had to google it and check eBay.

"VHS grading" seems to cost anywhere from $100 to $300.

Why would anyone in his/her right mind pay hundreds of $$$ to have a sealed VHS (the type that was mass-produced in the millions and must exist as old new stock all over the world) "graded", encased and slapped with various stickers?

Are people crazy?

I would think the smart guy is the company providing the grading... that costs real money.
But hoping to sell your "graded" T2 or Goonies VHS for $1,000? Unlikely.

This guy has the same understanding => https://digitalconverters.co.uk/blog/should-i-grade-my-vhs-tapes

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 Post subject: Re: Investment Graded VHS ?!?
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2023, 14:52 
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You only need to find one crazy person per tape (assuming you're not just laundrering money) to cash in, so the good news is that this doesn't mean people at large are crazy. The other side to this isn't craziness but old-fashioned speculation: "The price of [thing] is going up, so I'll buy it and sell it again before the price falls." The thing can be literally anything. All you need are a few hucksters to get in bid wars with their own alt accounts to make the illusion of a collectable on the rise to get some suckers in on the game.

So we've got a few crazy people, a few frauds, and a few more speculator suckers but still not many. In general, people don't go in for this nonsense.

And anyway, most of us here understand that a sealed disc or tape is less desirable than one that's been verified in a player.
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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2023, 15:30 
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Pay a premium for a sealed (technically perishable) item that's been laying dormant for 10 to 40+ years and may be broken, moldy, rotten or just plain not working? No thanks.

As for 'grading' physical media. What are they grading? The box? The cover condition? Shelf wear?

Pricing an item based on rarity, but which is also tested and 100% proven to be working is a different matter. 'Grading' an unopened item that could be in bits is just lunacy. People want their heads checking.
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 Post subject: Re: Investment Graded VHS ?!?
PostPosted: 24 Jan 2023, 16:14 
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Why would anyone in his/her right mind pay hundreds of $$$ to own a LD that is on DVD or bluray.

Why would anyone pay 300+ for any late release title when its on bluray now for 12 bucks.
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PostPosted: 24 Jan 2023, 19:30 
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It probably is a lie. That grading company probably bought that tape for marketing propaganda. They probably paid that website to feature this sale or that website indirectly belongs to them. It is so easy to create a hype with the internet.

It is a stupid idea. First of, grading should cost much more than $300. It would only get you about 2 labor hours to perform all grading work. That’s barely watching the tape from finish to end. The cost should be more like $1,500 for it to be feasible. Who is going to pay that for a VHS?
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 Post subject: Re: Investment Graded VHS ?!?
PostPosted: 25 Jan 2023, 02:15 
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substance wrote:
It probably is a lie. That grading company probably bought that tape for marketing propaganda. They probably paid that website to feature this sale or that website indirectly belongs to them. It is so easy to create a hype with the internet.


Read the website article first :-)

The author also thinks it's probably of a scam/fraud with impossible to confirm eBay sales and screenshots of prices he can't confirm.

While he acknowledges that some VHS tapes can be rare and expensive (obscure horror movies, first batch with errors, etc.), "grading" them looks more like pump'n'dump from the grading service companies.

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 Post subject: Re: Investment Graded VHS ?!?
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rein-o wrote:
Why would anyone in his/her right mind pay hundreds of $$$ to own a LD that is on DVD or bluray.


We're talking thousands $$$ level of insanity here, exponentially more than the most expensive LDs... check eBay listings!

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=vhs+graded&_sop=16

(that's the asking price)
The Goonies - $75,000
The Natural - $50,000
UFC1 the beginning - $50,000
Rookie of the year - $25,000
Ferris Bueller's Day Off - $25,000
Rocky - $23,000
Karate Kid - $22,000
GI Joe - $22,000
Last Starfighter - $22,000
Stand by Me - $20,000

Of course they won't sell but each "grading case" made the grading service at least $100 richer.

("Sold" removing best offers because we don't know what the final price was)

Jaws - $6,100
Jaws - $5,600
Jaws - $4,638
First Blood - $2,250
The Super Bowl Shuffle - $1,450
Akira - $1,350
Rocky - $1,325
Karate Kid - $1,225
Star Wars - $980
The Goonies - $888
Street Fighter - $799
Big - $548
Jurassic Park - $500

Now watch this (rather funny) video analysis:



=> They sold their "for fun" copy for charity at $80,600?

"Graded Laserdisc" doesn't find anything, there is still hope in humanity :-)

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 Post subject: Re: Investment Graded VHS ?!?
PostPosted: 25 Jan 2023, 13:25 
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This is the same crap as grading video games. If I am buying one to eventually play it not look at the damn box incased in plastic.
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