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rein-o
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Post subject: First DVD with Laserlock DVD Rot Posted: 05 Oct 2023, 21:06 |
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Title pretty much sums it up, I just bought a DVD on ebay for TRON and the disc looks fine but it locks up for the first 25 minutes, it will play after I skip and the player catches it. Does anybody else have any cases of major label DVDrotters? Sort of bothersome as I know all these formats will eventually die quicker than the 1900 printing of the Fall of the Roman Empire I just acquired but this is sad to say the least. This DVD is only from 2002 and its very sad, and there may be a bunch of DVDs on the market very soon
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: First DVD with Laserlock DVDRot Posted: 06 Oct 2023, 02:59 |
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Seems that its a 2 disc set and both discs are fubar'd Won't get on to the menu, when it does only haft the time, very odd as I've owned a bunch of DVDs and never noticed this before. Disc looks perfect, but yes I've bought those types of LDs that look perfect but the owners never even played them to then be the first to play and they had flaws too. I'm thinking its the release, seems like this release is in a thicker case, I'll try to get another one and see, it could be my player but I doubt, unless its started to go today
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: First DVD with Laserlock DVDRot Posted: 06 Oct 2023, 20:48 |
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david4 wrote: Can you back up the DVD on your PC to an MKV and play that back without any issues? Haven't tried, it was only 7 bucks but it sucks, both discs actually freeze up, almost like what I've read and seen videos about HD DVD. I've already bought another copy but will check this one on my upstairs DVD player. Just very odd, but I sort of remember years ago when I first bought a DVD player that I had issues with the Disney Dumbo? It may have been their first pressing plants used
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: First DVD with Laserlock DVDRot Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 16:04 |
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I wonder if the cheapness of production of these formats are a reason they aren't being posted as much, I did a quick search but didn't find much, some but not much. So it may be that they just get tossed since most of the DVDs are only a few bucks online and a buck or two at local thrift stores. I do remember reading about an anime on DVD that all had flaws, I think it was Ariel, this is the LD Deluxe Ariel: The Beginning [PCLP-00124]I've wanted to get the DVD but am worried about the flaws so I've stayed away thus far. To add, I've only had this one DVD, maybe a flawed new DVD that I had to send back, I can't remember. I have had more LDs in my collection and go through my hands than DVDs, but have been buying more DVDs recently since they are still super cheap.
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Post subject: Re: First DVD with Laserlock DVDRot Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 16:49 |
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I distinctly remember an anime DVD…the exact title escapes me…something US released…maybe vol 2 of a series…that would not play on a PS2 as it shipped but it did play once the PS2 DVD software was updated. I remember this because it was the only DVD player in the house at the time. It may have been Gasaraki or FLCL…I can’t remember. So if you had a player that didn’t like that disk and it wasn’t update-able like the PS2 was, then it would never play even now. This is the kind of annoying crap that keeps me watching LD. Sure, LD has issues…lots of issues…but not that kind of random crap. Another thing when it comes to defective anything previously owned…things can change hands several times before someone has the brains to throw the thing in the trash. I’ve seen the same bad copy of a rare game turn up in the hands of more than one person who starts to wonder if there is a plague of failure with this rare item when it fact they all owned the same defective copy of the game. I have DOA PC Engine flash cart that I eventually realized I was the third owner of. I wonder if Tron has bad code, if it’s a bad pressing, or if it has rot. I also wonder how many people have been burned by the same copy of Tron you’re holding.
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Post subject: Re: First DVD with Laserlock DVDRot Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 16:59 |
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rein-o wrote: I wonder if the cheapness of production of these formats are a reason they aren't being posted as much, I did a quick search but didn't find much, some but not much. So it may be that they just get tossed since most of the DVDs are only a few bucks online and a buck or two at local thrift stores. I do remember reading about an anime on DVD that all had flaws, I think it was Ariel, this is the LD Deluxe Ariel: The Beginning [PCLP-00124]I've wanted to get the DVD but am worried about the flaws so I've stayed away thus far. To add, I've only had this one DVD, maybe a flawed new DVD that I had to send back, I can't remember. I have had more LDs in my collection and go through my hands than DVDs, but have been buying more DVDs recently since they are still super cheap. Deluxe Ariel is one of my only defective LDs and I’m pretty sure someone else mentioned theirs was bad. I hope the DVDs aren’t problematic as well.
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: First DVD with Laserlock DVDRot Posted: 21 Nov 2023, 01:27 |
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Yeah, my op wasn't about if I should start doing backups of stuff, it was asking if anybody else had this issue of DVD flawed playback on an LD forum. So it seems that it may be this lonely DVD title that had a bad run, I haven't found any other official DVDs with issues.
Had some HK discs years ago and some smaller budget companies, so I know those were just junk discs but hadn't had this issue with official DVDs before. So seems that its just Tron and only the 2 copies I bought, one was worse than the other, one was total trash, the other had a small issue on the extras disc.
I'm not going to spend time transferring about 60 DVDs to back them up when they cost me a buck at the thrift store. If I need to back them up I will just buy another copy, its not like Tron was expensive, 5 and 6 bucks with free shipping.
Just wanted to know but thanks for the idea of backups that don't make sense.
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Post subject: Re: First DVD with Laserlock DVD Rot Posted: 21 Jan 2024, 10:28 |
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rein-o wrote: This is an interesting one, found out I have another glitchy DVD, this time its Superman 4 disc set from around 2006. Same issue that plagued the US HD DVDs. Same plant, same problems... Julien
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Post subject: Re: First DVD with Laserlock DVD Rot Posted: 12 Feb 2024, 08:21 |
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admin wrote: Same issue that plagued the US HD DVDs. Same plant, same problems... Julien I remember when the HD DVD format started, one announced "advantage" was that existing DVD-manufacturing equipment could be modified or adapted to make HD DVDs. With that in mind, and the widespread failures of Warner Brothers HD DVDs, are/were there a large number of WB DVDs that have also failed? I see only the two items rein-o mentioned here, but do any of you know of other reported issues? (Once HD DVD and Blu-ray came out, I completely stopped buying DVDs, except for maybe five or six since then.)
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