Ok, first of all, I'm sorry I posted something quasi-political on here. But, I have my reasons, please hear me out.

The jist of everything is; copyright and trademark owners are trying to use a loophole in current laws that would make reselling most of what you own, illegal. This isn't just electronics; but your car, your house, even your clothes. Anything manufactured overseas, or with items manufactured overseas; would require permission from trademark/copyright holders before you could resell said item; and if they're stooping to this kind of tactic, it's probably a safe bet they would deny it.

If they're trying to abuse the law that badly; then I'm sure copyright trolls will be putting a stop to all the reselling off movies and music; both online and in brick in mortar stores. So no more picking up used LaserDiscs, no more player sells, hell; kiss eBay and yard sales goodbye. Clauses will likely make it illegal for you to recycle or even throw away these items. Afterall, you won't own them anymore, you're merely leasing them.

Seriously, I'm usually the one person that when this stuff flies across my inbox or Facebook feed; I ignore it. A lot of times it is a bunch of crazy nut jobs complaining about something that's completely unjustified; this isn't. The more I dug in to the details, the more worried I got. the biggest worry was for the economy; if a company can make it illegal for you to resell their goods by making them overseas, then they have every incentive to move the already dwindling manufacturing jobs overseas.

Apparently a federal court in New York has already decided that selling your smartphone, or computer, or books, or even your LaserDiscs; is illegal.
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/06/if-youve-ever-sold-a-used-ipod-you-may-have-violated-copyright-law/258276/

If you think that's crazy, just remember how insane SOPA/PIPA actually was.

http://www.youvebeenowned.org/

Do something, or we'll be bending over even farther at the mercy of copyright/trademark trolls.

Got knocked off in congress earlier this year. The first use clause is pretty explicit and the supreme court has upheld it before. It would suck if you couldnt sell them though. That being said, I would like someone to try to stop someone from selling something they bought. That would be interesting.

its one thing after another in america lol greedy corporations..

craigslist was posting this stuff, sopa and i believe the other was pipa.
Mnster cable was one that didn't want people to resell their cables etc.
i won't buy msnter anymore, they sued some guy that used Msnter in the name.
same with chikfla, they wanted to sue some guy for posting on his hat eat more ____
and it wasn't even chicken.

it's these big companies that have to be stoped, and if they don't want us to sell there stuff when we're done with it, don't buy it in the first place get other stuff from companies that you don't have to worry about.

or just wait till they are out of business and buy it then.
Pioneer will never be able to come after us for selling old LD players, they don't make any money off of them now!

Nor the discs, for the same reason, dead tech.

yazorin nailed it !!!
Corporations have their bellies and even their mouths full, yet they yearn for MORE........
Greed has no ceiling ..... forget about limits......
Watch Rollerball again folks.....
We are nearly there.........
Thanks for the post dewdude !

Well I don’t live in the US but thinking WTF reselling your clothes illegal?

No more drugs for the person who dreamed up that BS. Some greedy bugger wants to pocket from this. Well screw them! eBay bumped up % was it 2 years ago and I’ve forgotten about that.

This will never hold or stick it would all go black market and no one wants that. No one wants the fuzz the pigs knocking at your door because you sold some Laserdiscs, for Christ sakes.

You would have to have a really big jacket to hide laserdiscs in in order to sell them on the street. I can see it now, hey dude, want to buy some laserdiscs? And then open your coat! Lol

FLASHER! Got some Laserporn.

I'm not going to lose sleep over this, it's by far the most absurd thing I've read and it won’t hold it.

Out with the old and in with the new.
The US obviously wants you to spend your way out of this recession by forcing you to buy only new items which boosts retail sales.
Dead formats like laserdisc and VHS will only be sold illegally down back alleys like 'snuff' videos!

hm.. wierd.

But if I understand the text, all this crap is becouse companies wanted to stop cross-border imports. And in that point I totally understand them. But now they got a mess becouse of that. Of course it wont be a problem if companies doesnt care. And I am pretty sure that the first company who would stop the 2nd hand sale will go under shortly.

Yeah, this is a non issue. Don't see this going anywhere. Just political scare tactics trying to make something out of nothing.

They got close to passing the law in congress and then got B**ch slapped by the voting public. We just have to be careful.

Be vigilant...
Those same forces will regroup and propose it again......
And again.......
The bankruptsy laws were revamped the same way....
Took many years but the banks finally won the day after proposing and being shot down over and over again...........

I don't think Pioneer is going to object. I have replaced parts on all my used laserdisc players. And any used player I buy I would tune up with parts if needed.......and that keeps Pioneers LD parts stock they have left moving. Maybe not a big dollar market, but I don't think they would cut out something, that's needing and using what they have to sell.

Japan almost succeeded in adopting a law in 2006 that would ban the 2nd market of electronics devices more than 25-year old.

http://en.akihabaranews.com/6699/legacy ... l-in-japan

The law was eventually given up when major musicians claimed that this would kill the music market for vintage keyboards/guitars, etc.

Julien

Wow - that is scary given Japan is the world's largest supply of used laserdisc players. Imagine if overnight none were available anymore.
Prices would sky rocket to thousands per player in all other territories.

Then that 919 would be totally worth 2k