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Does VHS have any real advantages that hold up today?
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Author:  substance [ 22 Dec 2013, 18:47 ]
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And vcd
Author:  nissling [ 22 Dec 2013, 19:10 ]
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Of course. I saw A Brighter Summer Day on VCD last week. It's an amazing film but the format hasn't aged well...
Author:  substance [ 22 Dec 2013, 19:43 ]
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Vcd is sort of vhs quality in digital and highly compressed. Only thing fun is you have to change discs every hour:)
Author:  elahrairrah [ 24 Dec 2013, 00:53 ]
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I somewhat prefer VHS to VCD. At least VHS doesn't pixellate like crazy in some action scenes!

I know VHS has like 30 lines of color resolution. What's the color resolution on VCD? Is it similarly horrible?
Author:  happycube [ 24 Dec 2013, 02:37 ]
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176. On a really, really, still picture on a good day.
Author:  Guest [ 29 Dec 2013, 04:04 ]
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They lasted longer than the so called experts said they would. Mine still play & I still own around 3 VHS players including a new one in the closet. The one problem that cant be fixed is if they get white mold/dust in the shell.
Author:  ertoili [ 26 Sep 2014, 14:44 ]
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Yes, and no the advantages of vhs are not nostalgia. ..they re technical: the human eyes only perceive the analog colors as naturals..... the same with hifi sound.....and only a magnetic recording can capture the original texture and movement (with less resolution than BD lets say Vhs-proffesional) of an image; photography and digital are second place in this!

note: Laserdisc is also perfect in movement but not that good in textures than vhs pro
Author:  happycube [ 26 Sep 2014, 17:13 ]
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Sufficiently advanced digital can look/sound like analog. (Even the later LD digital TBC looks like analog to experienced techs - it was the early DNR that breaks the analog look on the 704 et al)

The real value to VHS this point is the content - quite a bit of stuff that never even made it to LD, since you could afford to do very short runs of tapes and it had near total market penetration for years in the US at least. Same applies to VCD in countries where that was/is big (especially in the last decade or so when anyone vaguely skilled can produce one)
Author:  nissling [ 27 Sep 2014, 10:35 ]
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ertoili wrote:
and only a magnetic recording can capture the original texture and movement

Uhm... No, not at all. Watching a film on VHS (and let's say it was originally shot on 35mm) is a big deterioration in comparison to its original look. You come pretty much as far away from a good presentation as you can, with possible exception for VCD (heavy pixellating and lots of blocking) and CED (somewhat more fuzzy picture quality and lots of skipping) so I can't see any reason why anyone would want a new film to be released on VHS rather than Blu-Ray. The potential of VHS is so low that I'd never buy a VHS film for anything else than if the content is exclusive.
Author:  integra [ 27 Sep 2014, 21:05 ]
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Ever seen a prerecorded tape on a professional VHS deck with TBC? Most people can't tell the different between DVD and the VHS tape.... If you watch closely and intensive... then, you can tell... But a pro deck can really give a great picture (when the tape is good.... no home recorded tape will do that great :P )
Author:  nissling [ 27 Sep 2014, 21:28 ]
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If VHS is as good as you say, please upload some captures (or videos) and don't tell us which capture is which format. Let's see if I can tell them apart because I'm very sure I can no matter how good VHS deck you're using.
Author:  happycube [ 27 Sep 2014, 22:23 ]
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Yup, I could tell the difference too, even with the absolute best VHS equipment and capturing. (That said, I might do RF capturing someday, but I don't expect miracles ;) )

There just isn't the bandwidth to make VHS even as good as LD, much less a well done DVD or Blu-Ray, especially when it comes to colors.
Author:  integra [ 27 Sep 2014, 22:57 ]
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I will post some pics, as soon as I have everything operational ;)

I think I will take The Lion King, because I have that on tape and DVD in widescreen and without subtitles :P )
Author:  ertoili [ 08 Oct 2014, 21:12 ]
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Ok for movies Vhs standard is not enough but for analogic animation and svhs recordings of analogic emissions it was superb
Author:  nissling [ 08 Oct 2014, 21:18 ]
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What "analogic animation" and "analogic emissions" wouldn't look as good or better on DVD than VHS or S-VHS?
Author:  ertoili [ 09 Oct 2014, 09:36 ]
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In my opinion depends of what you prefer.....there are great anime DVD editions but sometimes mpeg-2 compressed colors and HUE deviation is really different
from original Analogic material...

As for sound, spacious and thunderous hi-quality stereo is amazing isnt it ?
Author:  nissling [ 09 Oct 2014, 11:24 ]
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MPEG-2 rarely show as much artifacts as some people claim. And if a DVD is worse than a VHS (I don't know of a single one) then it's obviously due to the master or transfer, not the format. An analog format has its limits as well and VHS is very bad in comparison to other formats of its time (Betamax, Laserdisc, Video 2000 and DVD (if you count it)).

As for sound, is there anything that VHS can do that DVD doesn't? And utilize?
Author:  laserdisc_fan [ 09 Oct 2014, 17:57 ]
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Back in the 80's and 90's I recorded tonnes of music programmes on VHS tapes. I also recorded many obscure films.
I've thousands of tapes. Virtually all of this music footage has never been shown on TV again so it is priceless even if the quality could be better.

So the one huge advantage VHS had over laserdisc was it was recordable and more importantly re-recordable at an affordable price.
I'm going to digitize the best tapes to preserve them.
Author:  ertoili [ 09 Oct 2014, 22:30 ]
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nissling you re right....but it is not what DVD can do or can not do...it is how it do !

I suppose DTS on DVD is superb, i know it is ! ; Good Vinyl , Cassette and VHS Stereo have great quality and they re warmer with better continuity i like that

Zillions of titles still live in good shape on VHS and formats like VHS,S-VHS, Muse LD, HI-Beta could be alive today but market destoys everything
Author:  happycube [ 17 Jan 2015, 07:30 ]
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Slight bit of necro here, but nobody mentioned how darn cheap VHS can be right now.

I've gotten sealed (non-rare) tapes in the last few weeks at thrifts for 33c to $1/ea, and a couple of good working VCR's for <$10. It's amusing to think that a tape's been waiting 10-15 years to be played.
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