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remington
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Post subject: Whats after hi-def and 3d?  Posted: 28 Feb 2012, 22:18 |
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I don't want to physically jump into my tv.  Or do we regress?
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Post subject: Re: Whats after hi-def and 3d?  Posted: 28 Feb 2012, 23:32 |
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I don't think there's any other natural progression left. Home video has always struggled to keep up to theaters and with Blu we've finally reached a point where home theaters are just about as good as movie theaters. Increased resolution wouldn't really do much since your average viewer is barely in the beginning ranges of seeing any improvement from 1080p over 720p if you go buy TV size + viewing distance. Any gimmicks the movie theaters come up with can likely be reproduced at home, especially with upgradeable firmware on most players.
For another "generation" of home video to happen we'd need a substantial change to how people watch movies at theaters or the home video market would have to start evolving on its own instead of attempting to re-create the theatrical experience.
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Post subject: Re: Whats after hi-def and 3d?  Posted: 29 Feb 2012, 17:04 |
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the next 'big thing' is supposed to be 4k. Sony and JVC have already released home projectors with 4k support. 4k is basically 4 times the resolution of 1080p, or 4096 x 2160. While 1080p is enough for the 'average' consumer, 4k really shines on screens over 70 inches, and the suggested viewing distance for 4k is a lot less than 1080p as well. 4k is what most theaters are currently showing now. Sony's projector is running around $20k and up, i don't remember what JVC's projector is running. but, both of these offer the same resolution as a movie theater projector. a quick internet search shows that a Christie 4k projector, which is what most theaters are using now, runs around $149,000 and up, so the Sony and JVC are actually comparatively a good bargain lol. currently, there isn't really any consumer media available for these projectors, pretty much just like with HDTVs when they first came out. they are supposed to up-convert blu-ray and other 1080p content to 4k and display a 4k image, however, this is comparable to up-converting a dvd to '1080p', inasmuch as it may not look bad, but it doesn't look as good as a 'true' hd source. according to Sound & Vision magazine, Blu-Ray may be able to support 4k video in the future, but that remains to be seen.
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Post subject: Re: Whats after hi-def and 3d?  Posted: 29 Feb 2012, 17:21 |
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*** also, forgot to mention, some studios that have been doing HD transfers of their films have been doing 4k digital transfers, so some movies are already primed and ready to go for 4k. not all of them have been doing this, but most of the 'good' transfers you see of old movies have been digitally transferred to 4k, then down-converted to 1080p for the home video releases. i forget which documentary i was watching on it (this was 2 years ago or so), but it was pretty interesting seeing that they already knew where the market was going in 10 years or so so they were saving money by doing a 4k transfer then so they had it ready to go when 4k kicks off more. that said, most of the HD transfers we see today are from 2k transfers, or 2x 1080p. i wish i could remember which documentary that was. it seems like it might have been on a disney movie actually.. but i'm not sure.
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Post subject: Re: Whats after hi-def and 3d?  Posted: 29 Feb 2012, 17:33 |
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jeb86home wrote: the next 'big thing' is supposed to be 4k. Sony and JVC have already released home projectors with 4k support. 4k is basically 4 times the resolution of 1080p, or 4096 x 2160. While 1080p is enough for the 'average' consumer, 4k really shines on screens over 70 inches, and the suggested viewing distance for 4k is a lot less than 1080p as well. 4k is what most theaters are currently showing now. Sony's projector is running around $20k and up, i don't remember what JVC's projector is running. but, both of these offer the same resolution as a movie theater projector. a quick internet search shows that a Christie 4k projector, which is what most theaters are using now, runs around $149,000 and up, so the Sony and JVC are actually comparatively a good bargain lol. currently, there isn't really any consumer media available for these projectors, pretty much just like with HDTVs when they first came out. they are supposed to up-convert blu-ray and other 1080p content to 4k and display a 4k image, however, this is comparable to up-converting a dvd to '1080p', inasmuch as it may not look bad, but it doesn't look as good as a 'true' hd source. according to Sound & Vision magazine, Blu-Ray may be able to support 4k video in the future, but that remains to be seen. Yeah, a 4096 x 2160 monitor was demoed at CES about 5 or 6 years ago. Only problem is, it's going to take a while before that is even put on the market. You have to remember, the first working prototype for HDTV was out in the 60s, and how long was it before that ever hit the market!
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Post subject: Re: Whats after hi-def and 3d?  Posted: 29 Feb 2012, 17:41 |
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elahrairrah wrote: Yeah, a 4096 x 2160 monitor was demoed at CES about 5 or 6 years ago. Only problem is, it's going to take a while before that is even put on the market. You have to remember, the first working prototype for HDTV was out in the 60s, and how long was it before that ever hit the market! true, a 4k monitor will probably take a little while to make it to the market, but, if you have the money, you can buy a 4k projector today: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Vpl-vw1000es ... B0077R5KXGonly $19,999.99! lol.
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Post subject: Re: Whats after hi-def and 3d?  Posted: 29 Feb 2012, 18:01 |
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jeb86home wrote: true, a 4k monitor will probably take a little while to make it to the market, but, if you have the money, you can buy a 4k projector today: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Vpl-vw1000es ... B0077R5KXGonly $19,999.99! lol. Hah, yeah, and that probably weighs as much as an ounce per pixel!
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Post subject: Re: Whats after hi-def and 3d?  Posted: 29 Feb 2012, 18:14 |
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elahrairrah wrote: jeb86home wrote: true, a 4k monitor will probably take a little while to make it to the market, but, if you have the money, you can buy a 4k projector today: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-Vpl-vw1000es ... B0077R5KXGonly $19,999.99! lol. Hah, yeah, and that probably weighs as much as an ounce per pixel! according to Amazon it weighs 50 lbs. hopefully whoever buys it anchors it to a ceiling joist, or it'll probably rip a hole in their ceiling lol.
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Post subject: Re: Whats after hi-def and 3d?  Posted: 29 Feb 2012, 19:37 |
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elahrairrah wrote: Downloading programming directly into our brains. It will take a lot less time than sitting in front of a TV for 2 hours! Douglas Quaid: "Well, Cohaagen, I have to hand it to you. It's the best mindfu-ck yet."  I hope digital cinema 3D goes into liquidation followed by bluray 3D and lastly digital HD TV. But that's not going to happen therefore I don't even both with bluray3D I don't even watch British TV and the analogue transmitter is being switched off this month not that I'm going to miss it or buy a new TV to watch HD, as far as what I have seen so far HD TV rubbish. I have no time to waste watching or listening to HD TV. The only time I have is Laserdic DVD (bluray titles that are not fuc-ked up with lousy colour balance or Dolby film mixes).
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yazorin
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Post subject: Re: Whats after hi-def and 3d?  Posted: 01 Mar 2012, 01:02 |
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remington wrote: I'm waiting for the display panel with built in LD capability the Japanese were working on. The LD goes into a cd style slot on the monitor- with all the bells and whistles. I saw that in a 1997 a/v mag. Guess I'll be waiting a long time.  woah! can you find a picture of that?
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Post subject: Re: Whats after hi-def and 3d?  Posted: 11 Mar 2012, 23:31 |
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mlcsmith wrote: 3D without the need for glasses (would that be considered a holograph?).
Smell-o-vision? That was already predicted 70 years ago in the Bugs Bunny cartoon The Old Gray Hare. A newspaper headline claims that in the year 2000 "Smellevision Replaces Television: Carl Stalling Sez, 'It'll Never Work!'" (Carl Stalling was the musical director and composer on the Looney Tunes cartoons.)  I guess some people have been working on Smell-O-Vision for some time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smell-O-Vision
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