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 Post subject: On my way out......
PostPosted: 23 Feb 2013, 08:11 
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Well after a long time collecting, i just sold my intire LD collection, and gave blu gay the way for me. just bought a Pioneer BDB-LX91 and i am :shock: no more spinning the big frisbee s anymore....

So for me it s time to say thanx for all the good help and support for the time i was on here.

I will keep my account but you won t see me that much, as i will move on to the AV blu ray section.

I still have a Japanese 959 that has focus problems and is missing 1 side panel but i sell it cheap for parts

so all the guts and front and back but not top or bottum since that is to expensive to ship.

MAKE ME AN OFFER ON PM.


Thanx julien and everyone on LDDB!! :clap:


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 Post subject: Re: On my way out......
PostPosted: 23 Feb 2013, 08:17 
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Happy Trails Mate !
So long and thanks for all the fish .............. LoL
Good fortune with your next format !!!
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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2013, 08:53 
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OMG! What made you decide to abandon the format completely? I can't imagine getting rid of any of the things I enjoy like LaserDisc. Please don't take that as any kind of criticism, it's just that I can't even wrap my head around the wholesale elimination of an entire collection. I'd miss it in a week since I still watch pan and scan versions of discs just for nostalgic reasons.

I can't recall, which players did you own and how many discs?

I'll miss seeing your posts but I think you'll have fun with Blu-ray - especially if you like collecting quadraphonic audio because there are many, many, many AVCHD's, made from original quadraphonic audio masters by people who work at the various music studios, available for downloading - as well as amazing sounding high-resolution albums you can legally buy and burn to an AVCHD formatted DVD and play on your Bd player. Plus, regardless of people's complaints about it, it's a wonderful format with jaw dropping quality. I love collecting BD's in addition to LaserDisc.

Have a wonderful time with your new video hobby - its always fun starting a new collection.
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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2013, 09:19 
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drastic step for sure... :o
I almost gave up on the format at one point but happy I didn't do it.
Collecting "all" laserdisc would make no more sense to me but the "late" editions and dts discs I would really miss.
Always tried to keep in mind that LD would never be high def. so I made my peace with that fact. Some laserdiscs are absolute rubbish but every format has it's limits when the master is poor. The difference in PQ with ld was huge compared to BR or HDVD
Looking at my LD equipment now... I need to power up a few components to just get a decent picture and sound.
LD player-rf demodulator-Iscan HD-receiver-maybe even a cc decoder
With blu it's a simple play button push and I'm good to go. :)
but hey... we're living in 2013 now.
It was a small step for man... but a giant step for watching movies
Looking at it both ways ; I've been collecting since 1993 and never had the same "collectable" feeling as I did with buying laserdiscs.
Got a few more BR discs yesterday. They're top noth PQ wise but that's about it. Would be nice if someone decided the BR format needs a gatefold jacket. :lol:

Good luck with high def. technology. I'm sure the LX91 won't dissapoint. (too much) ;)
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 Post subject: Re: On my way out......
PostPosted: 23 Feb 2013, 09:55 
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well i had over 2500+ LD's incl rare 2001 titels etc. but the problem was when ever i watched a blu ray or bought one, i never looked at LD anymore.
I use to have a X0 and a X9 so i had the top of the line and that could not make me happy anymore...

65 inch plasma also does not like LD, on 40 inch yes but 65 is blu ray stuff 8-)

Maybe ask jullien to make a BD section and i will stay on this forum forever :)

@disclord i do collect DTS audio cd s :lol: i like all the SACD and all that type multichannel music
  
 
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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2013, 10:20 
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 Post subject: Re: On my way out......
PostPosted: 23 Feb 2013, 11:27 
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2003-2013 so that s 10 years i never liked DVD
  
 
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kris wrote:
Always tried to keep in mind that LD would never be high def. so I made my peace with that fact.


I followed HD developments from the mid-80's onward and while I knew that we would never have Hi-Vision MUSE discs here in the US due to the high cost of the total format itself and the fact that analog-based HD like MUSE was dead since the advent of the Digicipher HD system, when DVD came out I figured we'd get some form of digital HD format based around the LaserDisc. MSB's proposal to encode MPEG-2 HD as a modulated RF signal on LaserDisc, keeping LaserDisc's NTSC sync signal where it was in the disc spectrum so that existing players would recognize and properly play the discs, with the MPEG-2 HD RF signal sent to an HD decoder via a players AC-3 RF output (since the AC-3 out contains the entire RF disc spectrum and not just the audio carrier frequencies), seemed possible and didn't require a new player with special laser, etc; Only a new decoder that could output HD and downconverted HD, would need to be bought to view the HD LD's. Pioneer had been working on various HD LaserDisc formats for years and I really didn't think they would abandon the format so quickly - as late as 1999 they were publicly stating that they felt LD had at least 10 years of life left and they doubted it would ever completely go away; it would become a very specialized market similar to the LP - and I didnt think they'd discontinue the format without at least attempting an introduction of an HD LaserDisc format or some sort of component based LD system.

So, I was stupid in thinking we'd be given an HD LD system and LaserDisc's quick demise came as a shock to me.
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PostPosted: 23 Feb 2013, 17:05 
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nllaserdiscnl wrote:
2003-2013 so that s 10 years i never liked DVD


I've always liked DVD - not only for its superior component picture quality and sound abilities, but because it was, and became, everything MCA DiscoVision envisioned for LaserDisc back in the 70's: A low cost, mass market format with very high picture and sound quality, all kinds of special effects and features and thousands of titles available. Plus storing computer data, industrial uses, etc.

Of course, I never loved DVD like I loved, and still love, LaserDisc. There is something intangible about LaserDisc, that DVD doesn't have, that makes me love LD so.
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PostPosted: 25 Feb 2013, 12:06 
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nllaserdiscnl wrote:
well i had over 2500+ LD's incl rare 2001 titels etc.


Interesting to hear you sold everything, may I ask what you got for the discs?
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 Post subject: Re: On my way out......
PostPosted: 25 Feb 2013, 16:01 
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well i had over 2500+ LD's incl rare 2001 titels etc.


Interesting to hear you sold everything, may I ask what you got for the discs?


i got around 4300 euro sold in 2 diff stacks

but in there where 2 brand new pioneer players and titels like u571 etc
  
 
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nllaserdiscnl wrote:

i got around 4300 euro sold in 2 diff stacks

but in there where 2 brand new pioneer players and titels like u571 etc


I got offered substantially more than that for just 1 disc in my music collection. I think you let them go very cheaply at that price.
So you don't think you will regret this and be back in 10 years time trying to regather what you sold?
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nllaserdiscnl wrote:
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nllaserdiscnl wrote:
well i had over 2500+ LD's incl rare 2001 titels etc.


Interesting to hear you sold everything, may I ask what you got for the discs?


i got around 4300 euro sold in 2 diff stacks

but in there where 2 brand new pioneer players and titels like u571 etc



4300 euro is a decent price these days... depending on the type of player(s) and "rarities"
Myself I came to realize that even "rare" laserdiscs like The Cell, U-571, The Crimson Rivers etc... aren't worth much to begin with.
when selling a collection I think it's very important to include some type of "rarities" because let's face it; lots of discs are so easy to get at bargain prices these days.
I hope you won't regret selling the collection one day.
Good luck with (let's face it) the best quality format around. Blu ray :wtf:
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 Post subject: Re: On my way out......
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nllaserdiscnl wrote:

i got around 4300 euro sold in 2 diff stacks

but in there where 2 brand new pioneer players and titels like u571 etc


I got offered substantially more than that for just 1 disc in my music collection. I think you let them go very cheaply at that price.
So you don't think you will regret this and be back in 10 years time trying to regather what you sold?

Trust me he will regret as I can speak for myself (with first hand experience).
Just as long as there are some really botched up bluray's out there and as long as I have it on Laserdisc without those botches I'd sooner have best of both worlds and I would seriously reconsider not selling.
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 Post subject: Re: On my way out......
PostPosted: 26 Feb 2013, 08:30 
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nllaserdiscnl wrote:

i got around 4300 euro sold in 2 diff stacks

but in there where 2 brand new pioneer players and titels like u571 etc


On one hand it is difficult to tell if the price is ok, it all depends on the titles and status of the discs, and your view on "late" discs.
a brand new regular pioneer player does not sell for much (eg I came across 3x CLD-D515 sealed in box for 100 euro a piece)

Laserdisc_fan, you as a real music lover and find yourself a collection of only good music discs the value will be different compared to a regular movie collection as most people didn't buy a lot of music discs.. On the other hand some people will not give a euro for music discs ... it all depends your taste, but its a fact its much easier to find movies than music.

As long as he is happy that is the most important, myself I collect since 1988 so letting my collection go will really hurt...

Laserdisc_fan: what is this title of the LD which someone so desperately wanted?
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 Post subject: Re: On my way out......
PostPosted: 26 Feb 2013, 08:50 
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Someone who collected primarily Hollywood movies and only got into LD after it died isn't going to miss it. The only question is why he ever got into it in the first place. I see this constantly with video game collectors. One day they learn about a system that died before they were born. A week later they've memorized the Wikipedia entry for it and are blowing entire paychecks on the stuff. In three years the collection is complete. In 4 years they've sold the entire thing off. Collectors of this type almost always end up dumping their hoard after a while.

I totally understand why guys who've been collecting for 20 years will never let go. I simply don't understand the newbies.

The candle that burns twice and bright burns twice as fast. If your're only collecting for rarity or value you'll eventually get bored and move on. There is a reason why movies like Southpark etc were produced in such limited quantities; nobody wanted the things! They were valueless. The idea that they'd be worth anything is a recent invention created by new school collector types. LDs were never meant to be collected like baseball cards.
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Someone who collected primarily Hollywood movies and only got into LD after it died isn't going to miss it. The only question is why he ever got into it in the first place. I see this constantly with video game collectors. One day they learn about a system that died before they were born. A week later they've memorized the Wikipedia entry for it and are blowing entire paychecks on the stuff. In three years the collection is complete. In 4 years they've sold the entire thing off. Collectors of this type almost always end up dumping their hoard after a while.

I totally understand why guys who've been collecting for 20 years will never let go. I simply don't understand the newbies.

The candle that burns twice and bright burns twice as fast. If your're only collecting for rarity or value you'll eventually get bored and move on. There is a reason why movies like Southpark etc were produced in such limited quantities; nobody wanted the things! They were valueless. The idea that they'd be worth anything is a recent invention created by new school collector types. LDs were never meant to be collected like baseball cards.



Totally agree, A wise statement that is :thumbup:
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i regret it already, and didn't sell my collection :oops: :lol:

collecting LDs is going to be different for each.
some want the best dolby surround :thumbup:
some want rare unreleased and or uncompressed music LDs :thumbup:
i collect anime, and other discs that i can't get on DVD or the transfer is different, also i grew up
with LD being the only way to own anime titles, other way was to buy bootleg VHS copies :thumbdown: that always had horrible transfers.

so if you are collecting to own all the batman films due to better audio :| that's fine but you might be better off with DVD since they will always release them and they won't be lost in time or to technology
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I've probably sold about 60% of my collection and haven't acquired any new LDs in about six years. But there will always be many LDs that I'd have a tough time removing from my collection. Suppose I don't fall into the best demographic, either, since I got into laserdisc shortly after dvd came out. I really started buying the vast majority of my discs around 2001-2003 when people wanted absolutely nothing to do with the format and probably amassed as many as 1500 or so discs at various stages in the buying, selling, and trading aspect of the hobby. Pretty much stopped buying LDs right around the time blu ray and hd dvd came out, although I haven't stopped watching the ones I own.
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