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 Post subject: When did DADC USA start to go bad?
PostPosted: 28 Jun 2024, 12:57 
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I want to know your opinions on exactly when DADC USA started to go bad and began pressing notorious rotters. I’d say it began to worsen around 1993 and got really bad around 1995, once the mint markings exceeded LDxx-002700, based on what I’ve read and from what I’ve seen in collection (I’ve been collecting since 2012). I’ve watched everything in my collection to check for rot and other defects. And I think LDxx-001800 to LDxx-002700 are hit-or-miss.
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PostPosted: 28 Jun 2024, 13:59 
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This has been discussed before:

DADC USA Rot Plot
DADC Terre Haute... how for so long???
Your experiences with Laser Rot
Manufacturer Disc rot?

Consensus is from mid-90's, with serial master ID in the 2000~2500 => https://www.lddb.com/mint/dadc-usa

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 Post subject: Re: When did DADC USA start to go bad?
PostPosted: 28 Jun 2024, 15:16 
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Out of my 18 DADC USA-manufactured discs, 12 have developed rot. Six have light rot, three have medium rot and three have heavy rot. Thankfully, I have never seen a DADC USA-manufactured disc in my collection with damaged audio.

I originally bought the Pioneer pressing of Men in Black because the DADC USA pressing is a highly known rotter. It still plays perfectly fine to this day with no signs of rot. Later, I decided to buy the DADC USA pressing. To my surprise, it was completely rot-free, with no signs of speckling at all! I originally bought the DADC USA pressing of Volcano because the Kuraray pressing was so hard to get. Later, I finally came across a Kuraray pressing, which is rot-free! Also, I haven’t bought the DADC Austria pressing of Last Action Hero yet. And only the dead side to Hook is rot-free.

What have your experiences with DADC USA been?


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PostPosted: 28 Jun 2024, 15:19 
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chrisskeeter wrote:
What have your experiences with DADC USA been?


All my late releases died within 2 years (as in snow + distorted audio) and became unplayable.

I broke the discs to pieces but kept the covers as future display options.

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There are people on this forum who have extremely snowy titles with damaged audio, but still report them as level 5 rot even though they should be level 4 rot.

Which criteria make a LaserDisc that still looks playable level 5 rot as opposed to level 4 rot?
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chrisskeeter wrote:
Which criteria make a LaserDisc that still looks playable level 5 rot as opposed to level 4 rot?


Level 5 cannot be played. the TOC (table of contents) has been damaged beyond recognition and the player can't identify the disc as a LaserDisc anymore.

It would display an error code after a few attempts at reading.

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PostPosted: 28 Jun 2024, 17:10 
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Which error code does it typically display?
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chrisskeeter wrote:
Which error code does it typically display?


I can't remember. That was 20+ years ago.

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It really doesn’t matter. If it won’t lock on it’s a five. There is no “rot” error code. It’s just going to say insufficient disc speed or something.

Rot is a reality, but it’s not a function of LD. It’s pointless to try to define it so totally. It can’t be fixed, LDs are no longer made, there’s nothing to be learned. If it plays, watch it. If it doesn’t, chuck it.
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I think DADC USA is better than PDO UK. Almost all discs from the latter manufacturing plant have rotted! I have only seen two people with a rot-free PDO UK pressing so far.
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I’m American so I have no use for pretty much any PAL LD ever pressed so that’s completely irrelevant to me.

The rot of that factory is pretty bad though. I do have some import CDs from that plant that simply died in their cases. People who live in the UK must be very familiar with the CD issue. Disgraceful.
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You can already consider yourself lucky if the analog audio doesn’t sound distorted or the digital sound doesn’t suffer from drop-outs on a PDO UK disc.
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My copy of Willow is very rotted and then improves. My copy of Gunsmith Cats 1 is very rotted and almost doesn't play distorted audio and it's just horrible. They pretty much did all the ADV or AD Vision laserdisc titles. Gunsmith cats 2 isn't as bad but it still has dropouts. Burn up W has droputs. I don't have Neon Genesis Evangelion so i can't comment on if that one has rot. I do know the OVA for Battle Angel can be a rotter.
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PostPosted: 10 Jul 2024, 20:37 
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Oliver! (Columbia release) had light rot during the first few minutes of Side 1, but just that. I don't recommend this film unless you need to own every Best Picture Winner.
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