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takeshi666
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Post subject: Re: DVDs that use laserdisc transfers Posted: 03 Nov 2020, 06:07 |
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signofzeta wrote: Making DVDs from actual retail Laserdiscs is very uncommon. Well the distributor for this particular release of Halloween 2 has a history of making some really dodgy decisions, like releasing a cut version of Conan the Destroyer when it could've passed uncut, or releasing a pan & scan version of Sergei Bondarchuk's War & Peace. Their name is ScanBox but they've earned the nickname ScumBox for a good reason. I wouldn't put releasing an LD rip past them.
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laserpaal
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Post subject: Re: DVDs that use laserdisc transfers Posted: 03 Nov 2020, 09:02 |
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takeshi666 wrote: signofzeta wrote: Making DVDs from actual retail Laserdiscs is very uncommon. Well the distributor for this particular release of Halloween 2 has a history of making some really dodgy decisions, like releasing a cut version of Conan the Destroyer when it could've passed uncut, or releasing a pan & scan version of Sergei Bondarchuk's War & Peace. Their name is ScanBox but they've earned the nickname ScumBox for a good reason. I wouldn't put releasing an LD rip past them. I'm quite familiar with Scanbox entertainment as I own many dvds releases from that particular company, but Scumbox - that's new to me! I remember cheap dvd packaging, lousy label artwork on discs (even repacked discs clearly meant for other releases). The transfer themselves were not always top notch to be worthy of the dvd format, but that might not be their fault unless their intention was to use lower quality sources. I do remember a lot of compression artifacts in the movies. Because of the low quality I stopped buying dvds locally and imported instead. Much more variety and better quality.
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elahrairrah
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Post subject: Re: DVDs that use laserdisc transfers Posted: 04 Nov 2020, 23:01 |
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I know I've read that some horror DVDs in the early 00s in some European countries used Japanese LDs to make the DVD.
One of them was a German DVD of Umberto Lenzi's Nightmare City, where some reviewers spoke of Japanese subtitles burned into the DVD image!
Other than that, I reiterate that early in DVD's life there were non-anamorphic, letterboxed DVDs that were made from the same masters or transfers that the LDs used. Most notorious were the early Disney DVD releases. Not the animated films, but the other Disney studios like Touchstone, Hollywood Pictures, etc.
If I can find an old issue of Widscreen Review magazine with any of these DVDs I'll scan it in so everyone can see.
I am a bit suspect of some early US anime releases on DVD from back in the day that they might have either been from the same 1" tape masters that they would use for LD (as they had burned in cross-color and dot-crawl artifacts) or used an LD altogether for the DVD release. My argument for the latter would be that a number of these smaller US anime importing companies from back then like Central Park Media didn't have a whole lot of money to spend. So if they already paid a bunch of money for the rights, that might not have included the master tapes in that price (Rob Woodhead from AnimEigo had a funny story about jumping through hoops trying to get master materials after already negotiating for the rights for a certain title--I think it was Kimagure Orange Road.) Thus, it would just be easier to just get the LD of an anime title to make their DVD to lower overhead.
I think the "finally uncut" Manga Video 2006 DVD release of Street Fighter II: The Animated Movie might be in that same boat. At least the uncut disc. The English disc was the same initial North American dub that Sony put out so long ago. The Japanese "uncut" disc featured burned in English subtitles, a very soft picture and composite artifacting everywhere. I can't imagine a 1" master looking this bad!
This may have been fixed that in the subsequent blu-ray release, but it was a just annoying as all hell that after waiting for many years for an official uncut release in the US, that that's what they gave anime fans back in 2006.
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teddanson
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Post subject: Re: DVDs that use laserdisc transfers Posted: 04 Apr 2022, 09:14 |
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rein-o wrote: I just picked up Odin Photon Sailer and its not a great master, doesn't look like its from an LD but it does look like a poor master and probably from the same used for the LD at the time, I don't own the LD but only the DVD.
Also its got burned in subs so it also makes me feel that issue as you posted. Is that the anime that Manga Video released in the UK/Ireland as Odin? I always wanted to see that. Is there a Blu Ray edition or is this stuck in LD/VHS/DVD limbo?
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takeshi666
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Post subject: Re: DVDs that use laserdisc transfers Posted: 06 Apr 2022, 03:56 |
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jakeheke wrote: Any truth that the original Star Wars release on DVD was just dumped from the Definitive Laserdiscs? https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Original_unaltered_trilogyI recently came across these old DVDs at a garage sale locally. Did a damn fine job if that is the case Nah, people seem to mistake Laserdisc masters for actual Laserdiscs. The masters would probably be on a quadruplex tape or something. Since they're a generation up from the LDs, the DVDs look slightly better on some areas than the actual LDs, such as the black levels.
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