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elviscaprice
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Post subject: Re: Is laserdisc collecting becoming more popular?  Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 16:39 |
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laserdisc_fan wrote: There is absolutely no way you could compare collecting streamed copied content with owning the original artifact. I bet the devices used to store such content will be obsolete sooner than the actual laserdiscs! Once digital all that is required is a hard drive. You can get alot of material on the 3 TB internal drives and keep back ups. Is a heck of alot more convenient to move around with. Can play over and over again without wear and tear. Can trade material or make DVD's quickly. Have an alphabetical library for easy catalogue. Again the key is always keep back ups safely put away for data storage. Also I should add, that digital conversion of your laserdiscs makes playback by HDMI to a high end television much more fluid and simple. I get excellent picture in 1080i from my labtop or pc to my plasma tv. As far as new collectors, the material I desired most was the pre-86 laserdiscs which have a tendency to rot. But my advice to new collectors, buy em and do a lossless transfer then dump em. It's worth the cost and most $$$ can be retrieved back on the open market with a bit of patience and timely buying/selling. It was fun and rewarding for myself, in fact I made $$$ on my experience and walked away with some very nice material digitally stored. For myself I like to be mobile and could never imagine being bogged down with a laserdisc collection/player. In fact I do the same with all media, get it transferred (highest quality possible) to hard drive and dump it on the open market. Thank you LDDB for your awesome referral and information. It sure saved me time and effort. good luck all, Elvis
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elviscaprice
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Post subject: Re: Is laserdisc collecting becoming more popular?  Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 17:10 |
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laserdisc_fan wrote: Well I guess each to their own. I have also digitised some content to make up some music compilations for myself but I still consider my laserdiscs the masters so I don't need to spend time making DVD or hard drive backups of anything. As a collector I have very little interest in simply gathering files on a hard drive. There was alway much more to laserdiscs than that. In fact I can think of new other format that I'd rather collect. I'm confident that whatever money I spent buying music LDs would be recouped many times over if I wanted to sell them all but I never got into the format to make money - it was for my love of music. I wouldn't disagree with that, other than the money recouped many times over, doubt that, the longer you wait. It's a matter of preference, what is your priority, mine is the medium content, not the shiny discs, jacket artwork, or OBI's. I understand the love of a collection, physical or digital. Definitely would not do it for the money. Could never recoup the time put into it. It's for the love of the music.  Elvis
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elviscaprice
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Post subject: Re: Is laserdisc collecting becoming more popular?  Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 22:35 |
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vinylcollector wrote: If your a bit of a handy person, some minor repairs on your LD player can be done by yourself providing you can still get the parts, which still seem to be available for most players. Or by a non working player to use for parts. True, but that just verifies the inevitable dwindling of popularity due to the decreasing number of players and cost. As the lack of good working players go up in cost, the availablility of laserdiscs will increase and go down. Notice on Ebay that many sellers are no longer selling for auction at start price of a buck because their not getting any or fewer bids. That tells me that demand is way down and that sellers need to hope for the right buyer at a set price.
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elviscaprice
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Post subject: Re: Is laserdisc collecting becoming more popular?  Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 03:05 |
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mikeystoyz wrote: Many times the Laserdiscs are the Master That I would doubt. Could be in some cases. But few if any. Unless the original master was lost. Usually this would be on tape. Someone please correct me if I am wrong here. Elvis
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vinylcollector
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Post subject: Re: Is laserdisc collecting becoming more popular?  Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 05:15 |
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elviscaprice wrote: mikeystoyz wrote: Many times the Laserdiscs are the Master That I would doubt. Could be in some cases. But few if any. Unless the original master was lost. Usually this would be on tape. Someone please correct me if I am wrong here. Elvis I remember reading that too, that some DVD were actually were made off the laserdisc because that was the best master available. I can see that quite possible with older film releases. Older film can deteriorat and get brittle with age, and if the tape master gets damaged a LD might be your best choice.
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laserdiscoking
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Post subject: Re: Is laserdisc collecting becoming more popular?  Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 08:17 |
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I've digitized a few laserdiscs to DVD-r, mainly really rare discs that my University had for rent from their media library: like Giorgio Moroder's Metropolis remaster, and Othello, Tokyo Olympiad, and Olympia Criterions. But, as a collector, I could never give up the ritual of disc & side changes, fawning over cover artwork, and the thrill of the hunt for platters, players, and presentation hardware. "Now some people say I'm crazy..."
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cessnaace
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Post subject: Re: Is laserdisc collecting becoming more popular?  Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 00:20 |
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elviscaprice wrote: I think you guys are kidding yourselves thinking this Laserdisc collecting is in any way resurrecting itself. Time is working against the discs themselves as many will sooner or later succumb to laser rot, be remastered to another source, or lack of working players. Laser Rot will generally surface, if it's going too, at most about 2 years after the disc was manfactured. Chances are if an LD hasn't developed Laser Rot yet, it won't. Unless, of course, it is stored in a high humidity environment. I've never had a disc that I bought before 1999 that was rot free develop it since. STAY AWESOME! 
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Post subject: Re: Is laserdisc collecting becoming more popular?  Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 00:41 |
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cessnaace wrote: Laser Rot will generally surface, if it's going too, at most about 2 years after the disc was manfactured. Chances are if an LD hasn't developed Laser Rot yet, it won't. Unless, of course, it is stored in a high humidity environment. I've never had a disc that I bought before 1999 that was rot free develop it since. I would statistically confirm that a disc either rots early on or stabilize over time after several years. However humidity has nothing to do with laser rot, it's oxygen passing through porous glue that oxides the aluminum layer over time. Hence, you should see stronger laser rot at the beginning and the end of a face and milder one in the middle. However, I started noticing some laser rot on my Pioneer pressed "Phantom Menace AC3" or "Titanic AC3" that started developing a good 8 years after I bought them. Julien
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Post subject: Re: Is laserdisc collecting becoming more popular?  Posted: 17 Oct 2011, 01:21 |
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I started collecting them for the covers about a year or so ago. I was at the Princeton Record exchange in NJ and my girlfriend pointed out an Indiana Jones record... but it was no record, it was a LaserDisc! Now I have about 60 discs. With some awesome variations of Star Wars (Definitive, Faces, Special Edition, Re-Release Japan Collector's Edition). I have one good working player and a few others that half work or need work. The store by me used to have a lot of the discs, then they disappeared, but now they have a good amount of them again. I think more people are learning about them. I don't know if they're really in demand, but they sure are still out there.  And the LaserDisc is used in the master sometimes (for better or worse...). For example the Original Un-edited Star Wars Trilogy DVDs released in 2006 were sourced directly from the LaserDisc masters.
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