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 Post subject: As film prints are becoming more extinct laserdisc only way
PostPosted: 10 May 2012, 02:42 
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I read that Lucas wants to shoot digial while Spielberg wants to use film on a new Indiana Jones. With Laserdisc & VHS this maybe the last way to view a film print. I think you can do too much remastering to make a film look too perfect. I have a rare Butch Cassidy widescreen japan laserdisc before it was remastered you can even see the dots for the film reel changes. Does anyone agree that a classic older film can look too perfect? I know anything new today doesnt even look like it was shot on film.
  
 
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PostPosted: 10 May 2012, 03:17 
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When it comes to home video, I don't mind a Laserdisc being sourced from a 35mm print, as long as it's processed properly and comes from good quality material, but in most cases I prefer a good interpositive used as a source for Laserdiscs, which do away with reel change markers and are generally of higher quality. The reason most movies these days don't look like they're shot on film is simply because they aren't. Tons of film makers have adopted digital technology for their movies, and it really breaks my heart, seeing as my father is an engineer for Kodak working on motion picture film. I have a burning faithfulness to celluloid, and it's almost impossible to see a good 35mm print here in Rochester due to the film exodus in favor of digital projection
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 Post subject: Re: As film prints are becoming more extinct laserdisc only
PostPosted: 10 May 2012, 03:26 
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The high speed mass produced prints they are making these days are so crap I'd rather have the digital. I saw Return of the King when it came out and it was HORRIBLY grainy. Kind of reminds me of the 1980s when the quality of vinyl records was getting so bad it kind of looked like they were sabotaging the format to make CD more popular.

I think IMAX is still shot on film, right?
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 Post subject: Re: As film prints are becoming more extinct laserdisc only
PostPosted: 10 May 2012, 03:57 
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The high speed mass produced prints they are making these days are so crap I'd rather have the digital. I saw Return of the King when it came out and it was HORRIBLY grainy. Kind of reminds me of the 1980s when the quality of vinyl records was getting so bad it kind of looked like they were sabotaging the format to make CD more popular.

I think IMAX is still shot on film, right?

If a director chooses to use Imax cameras, it uses 15 perf 70mm film, which looks gorgeous projected on an Imax screen. Most imaxes however have converted to 4K digital, which looks like a**
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 Post subject: Re: As film prints are becoming more extinct laserdisc only
PostPosted: 10 May 2012, 04:16 
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flcl4evr wrote:
When it comes to home video, I don't mind a Laserdisc being sourced from a 35mm print, as long as it's processed properly and comes from good quality material, but in most cases I prefer a good interpositive used as a source for Laserdiscs, which do away with reel change markers and are generally of higher quality. The reason most movies these days don't look like they're shot on film is simply because they aren't. Tons of film makers have adopted digital technology for their movies, and it really breaks my heart, seeing as my father is an engineer for Kodak working on motion picture film. I have a burning faithfulness to celluloid, and it's almost impossible to see a good 35mm print here in Rochester due to the film exodus in favor of digital projection

Yep . . . when the thread came up talking about what post-2001 movies we'd like to see on LD, I made sure to choose titles that were shot on film. Really no point in putting a digitally shot film on LD if you ask me.
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 Post subject: Re: As film prints are becoming more extinct laserdisc only
PostPosted: 10 May 2012, 04:47 
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flcl4evr wrote:
The reason most movies these days don't look like they're shot on film is simply because they aren't.


Actually there are a lot of movies still shot on traditional 35mm film. I would say more than 60 percent of big budget movies are still using film. This issue lies in the digital intermediate that is created from these 35mm sources, from the DI, the original image is altered, color changed and then is either put on a hard drive or sent to the labs to be printed on 35mm. In short, if the DI is very bad and is crappy 2K then you are going to have a grainy, crap 35mm print. Back in the day, they used to use negative cutting...that is a thing of the past.

For example: the movie True Grit 2010 looked incredible in either 4K digital or 35mm film. The key was that the movie was converted to a 4K DI....the movie was shot on 35mm film.
  
 
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