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 Post subject: Re: What screen are you viewing your Laserdiscs on?
PostPosted: 16 Dec 2011, 15:05 
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Looking at a picture I found with google search, there sure cutting down on the inputs on the back of TV/monitors.

I guess the 1 video input is shared between component and composite? Meaning you can't use both at the same time.

They're trying to go all HDMI since it's a one plug solution for video and sound.

Also makes for having to include less hardware inside to accomodate legacy/analog equipment. I imagine comb filters or Y/C separators are going to be gone in a couple years (at least in consumer equipment.)
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I use the DVDO Iscan too. Image is great on my 55" Panasonic Viega Plasma.


Forgot to add that the one thing I miss about my Sony Wega CRT is that there was a zoom setting that seemed to work very well with with 1:1.66 movies. No such setting on the Panasonic Plasma. One other thing is on my old CRT, I could shift the image up and down which came in pretty handy when the subtitles were below the image on a 1:2.35 image.
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 Post subject: Re: What screen are you viewing your Laserdiscs on?
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I didn't line up (or buy anything) but Canada boxing day sales here today were quite good. The big ticket item was the Samsung 43" plasma flat screen for only 299.00 Canadian. (about 290.00 usd)
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 Post subject: Re: What screen are you viewing your Laserdiscs on?
PostPosted: 01 May 2012, 12:59 
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SONY KD-36XS955 36" CRT HDTV. The comb filter on this display is fantastic!

TLK :cool:

I was THIS CLOSE to getting that model of WEGA TV. The 1440x1080i resolution was very tempting.

I opted for the slightly less resolution KV-40XBR800, simply for the bigger screen. At least it still has an HDCP compatible DVI input should I finally join the dark side and get a blu-ray player.

Having a digital tuner was a high priority for me. Having HDMI input was a bonus.

What's the comb filter like on the KV-40XBR800? You can see how well it performs via the Snell and Wilcox 2 test pattern on the Video Essentials LD.

TLK :cool:

I finally got around to plugging my CLD-R7G into the KV-40XBR800 through composite to check out the comb filter in the TV. It's actually pretty good. Really diminishes the dot crawl and the cross color artifacts almost disappear when the moving orb comes to a stop.

BUUUUUUUT . . . it's still not as good as the comb filter in the R7G.

Might try plugging in the LX-900u into the TV via composite vs the R7G via S-Vido and see which gives off a better picture.
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 Post subject: Re: What screen are you viewing your Laserdiscs on?
PostPosted: 04 May 2012, 00:07 
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34" Panasonic Tau w/s CRT- amazing! This was how LD was meant to be viewed.
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 Post subject: Re: What screen are you viewing your Laserdiscs on?
PostPosted: 04 May 2012, 00:19 
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I finally got around to plugging my CLD-R7G into the KV-40XBR800 through composite to check out the comb filter in the TV. It's actually pretty good. Really diminishes the dot crawl and the cross color artifacts almost disappear when the moving orb comes to a stop.

BUUUUUUUT . . . it's still not as good as the comb filter in the R7G.

Might try plugging in the LX-900u into the TV via composite vs the R7G via S-Vido and see which gives off a better picture.

I have an R7G and although the filter is good I'm surprised to hear you say that on the Sony 40" the R7G filter is still better. What year is that Sony CRT and thats an XBR , right?

My R7G is connected to a 2004 Panasonic CRT w/s Tau with DNR off. THe Panasonic's comb filter is ahead of the R7Gs. I tried it both ways and the picture is far better with the CRTs filter kicking in. This tells me that the R7G, even as a "stand alone" unit still excedes a standard 604 (which the R7G is based on).
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 Post subject: Re: What screen are you viewing your Laserdiscs on?
PostPosted: 04 May 2012, 02:44 
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The KV-40XBR800 is, according to the person I bought it from, from 2004 as well. Like I said, it's a good filter in the set that does take out a lot of the cross-color artifacting, but the R7G's NEC filter gets rid of more of the cross-color.
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 Post subject: Re: What screen are you viewing your Laserdiscs on?
PostPosted: 04 May 2012, 04:18 
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Okay, now that's interesting. Plugged in the Panasonic LX-900u to the KV-40XBR800 through composite and did the Snell & Wilcox moving orb. Wow! Now that comb filter in the WEGA is showing its true colors! There is no cross-color or dot crawl at all in the surrounding patterns, and the cross-color completely disappears when the orb stops.

Plugged the R7G into the same port I used for the 900 (just in case the CF was port specific) and no, got the same performance as I had before with the R7G. I guess the R7G is just a bit too noisy for this CF, but the 900u is right at home.

Now, I'm in a conundrum as to which player to use in my HT!

Might have to stick to the R7G though because of the AC-3 RF output.
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 Post subject: Re: What screen are you viewing your Laserdiscs on?
PostPosted: 04 May 2012, 16:53 
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I'm currently watching my LDs on a Baird 42" LCD HDTV. It's connected via the S-Video output since the way the CLD-D925 was designed using the composite output wouldn't benefit me at all since the composite signal goes straight into the Y/C separation circuits first. Due to the LCD TV having a fixed resolution I have to turn up the sharpness to maximum for all but one disc, The Criterion Edition of The Rock since that disc is the sharpest I've seen to the point of it being at least near HD quality.
  
 
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I enjoy watching LaserDiscs on my main TV, my Panasonic Plasma HDTV (Model: TC-P42U1). I can't complain, things look great. I have my LD player connected via composite to my DVD-R, then that connects to the HDTV via component. :thumbup:

At my parent's house I had my LD player hooked up to my Dad's Sony WEGA CRT, I have to admit 'Toy Story' and 'SW Ep1: The Phantom Menace' looked awesome and pin-sharp on that set.
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I am still using 60" Pioneer Elite Kuro plasma. I upgraded my scaler from dvdo vp30 abt102 to Crystalio 2 vps3300. Amazing vp. Motion adaptive 3d 5line comb filter with very flexible adjustments,faroudja dcdi deinterlacer for sd analog and gennum vxp scaler
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PostPosted: 05 May 2012, 23:46 
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I have a Sony PVM-2950Q 27" SD CRT Broadcast monitor that I'm watching LDs on. It has a Super Trinitron display, which I believe only a few consumer models had.

The best part about this monitor is that many things that are normally service menu accessible only are accessible from the user menu and the service menu has just about any adjustment you could want to bring it up to optimal display quality. Best SD picture I have seen. On the down side, it's not very forgiving of LD picture noise.
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 Post subject: Re: What screen are you viewing your Laserdiscs on?
PostPosted: 09 Feb 2013, 09:36 
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A CLD-D925 on a 32" LCD via composite directly to the display itself. The player and my LCD both can accept S-Video as well, but I haven't even bothered with that since as I understand it, using composite activates the HDTV's comb filter while S-Video uses the Laserdisc's player comb filter which is outdated today.
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 Post subject: Re: What screen are you viewing your Laserdiscs on?
PostPosted: 09 Feb 2013, 14:39 
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I am still using 60" Pioneer Elite Kuro plasma. I upgraded my scaler from dvdo vp30 abt102 to Crystalio 2 vps3300. Amazing vp. Motion adaptive 3d 5line comb filter with very flexible adjustments,faroudja dcdi deinterlacer for sd analog and gennum vxp scaler


how much improvement did you get with the crystallio 2, over the vp30? and how much better did it really get from just plugging it into your kuro? I have found that the 3d comb filter in my kuro is extremely good at least =)
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 Post subject: Re: What screen are you viewing your Laserdiscs on?
PostPosted: 09 Feb 2013, 14:48 
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I'm just plugging mine into the back of my 50" LG using the scart, and it looks great. I do feel a bit dirty using scart but it does surprisingly good.
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PostPosted: 09 Feb 2013, 15:25 
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Panasonic TH-50PZ800E - plasma screen. I'm happy with the picture quality.
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Crystalio II made the most impact on picture.

DVDO Iscan VP30 with ABT102 card is amazing(probably best) for De-interlacing(for all SD sources) Aspect ratio management is superb. But the comb filter is just fine and no noise reduction.

Crystalio II's 3d 5line comb filter was the best PMS could land their hands on back in 2005. When adjusted properly, you see a great increase in color resolution(almost dvd like) and detail.

It has 2 de-interlacing chips for SD video(user selectable) Faroudja DCDi and VXP Gennum. VXP is good but DCDi gives you way more adjustments for SD video.

Faroudja DCDi has great noise reduction for analog sources(same as in Faroudja NRS video processors). A super low noise player like CLD-97 you only need this on noisey discs.

You can tweak DCDi settings for de-interlacing(even faroudja's own video processor s wont give you adjustments) Now I cant find detailed instructions on each(there is about 12 different adjustments each from 0 to 10). I figured the first 2 makes picture sharper(on 1 or 2 out of 10) without adding artifacts.

If you wanted you can also force Crystalio II to output 1080p 24fps.

Now crystalio II are still expensive and very hard to come by. Its hdmi connections are spec 1.1 so it doesnt support multi-ch LPCM or lossless bitsreams(dts-hd-ma, etc..). It can pass 2ch PCM, DD and DTS. So its suatable for DVD players, cablebox, Iptv boxes.

I run my Tivo Premier XL4(cable box), Pioneer DV-420(multiregion, Pal/ntsc 480i over hdmi)dvd player, JVC D-VHS deck(component), 1st gen PS3 60gb(fat, multich lpcm disabled), Iptv(world tv stations) into Crystalio II.

I connect my integra dhs-8.8(hd-dvd), Sony bd-p790(region a bluray), samsung bd-p5300(region b bluray), vudu bx100, wdtv live hub directly into my Yamaha RX-A3000 reciever(all video features defeated)

Crystalio II's output is also connected to one of yamaha recievers input. yamaha picks up audio and send video to my Pioneer Pro-141FD which is a 1080p 24/25/48/50/60/72 frame compatible 60" plasma monitor(no tuner or audio)


DVDO units can improve players like HLD-X0, X9, CLD-r7g, Ld-S9 and like which already has superb 3 comb filters.
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I view all of my Laserdisc's on my Pioneer KURO 6090, and it's a cracking Picture.

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I have recently purchased a 55" lg led tv(lm670t)
At the moment I have my player (pioneer cld925d) connected by scart and to be honest with a bit of tweaking the image looks pretty good but could probably be improved, would I benefit from using the composite connection instead? Or I have seen composite to hdmi converters, would this improve the picture at all? Not sure if the tv upscales the signal from the scart imput?
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I have recently purchased a 55" lg led tv(lm670t)
At the moment I have my player (pioneer cld925d) connected by scart and to be honest with a bit of tweaking the image looks pretty good but could probably be improved, would I benefit from using the composite connection instead? Or I have seen composite to hdmi converters, would this improve the picture at all? Not sure if the tv upscales the signal from the scart imput?


it depends on if you are using svideo or composite through the scart connection. a composite to hdmi convert would be a video processor like the DVDO and Crystallio.
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