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My LD player is hooked up to an LG 42" 1080p TV.

I hook up the video via composite into the TV itself, and the audio via optical on my A/V receiver. My receiver can upscale LD to 1080i, but it results in a very soft and blurred picture. Directly to the TV it is very sharp, and the picture looks pretty good. There are definitely artifacts in the TV when converting the analog signal into digital. When the LD is in freeze-frame mode, the picture is all jittery and distorted, ruining the meaning of freeze-frame at all. There are also some smearing and interlace artifacts, but I'm happy with it.

I have a Mitsubishi Megaview CRT analog television that is just fantastic. Although I have yet to hook up my LD player to it, as both the player and TV are separated in different houses, but I'm sure the picture will be fantastic.

As far as the freeze framing goes, I think Pioneer saw this coming and implemented on most of the later models the ability to "freeze field" in addition to "freeze frame."

elahrairrah wrote:

As far as the freeze framing goes, I think Pioneer saw this coming and implemented on most of the later models the ability to "freeze field" in addition to "freeze frame."

Nope. This is not the case. I've hooked up my player (Pioneer CLD-A100) to many different televisions, a DLP, a CRT, and an LCD projector. It is definitely an artifact of the LG HDTV, because on other TVs, it's still.

SONY KD-36XS955 36" CRT HDTV. The comb filter on this display is fantastic!

TLK :cool:

lizardkingjr wrote:

SONY KD-36XS955 36" CRT HDTV. The comb filter on this display is fantastic!

TLK :cool:

I was THIS CLOSE to getting that model of WEGA TV. The 1440x1080i resolution was very tempting.

I opted for the slightly less resolution KV-40XBR800, simply for the bigger screen. At least it still has an HDCP compatible DVI input should I finally join the dark side and get a blu-ray player.

However, I'm really intested in testing out a Pioneer Kuro plasma to see how well it does with LDs.

Author:	Guest [ 14 Oct 2011, 01:41 ]
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What say you? I have a CRT right now, am looking at HD options but am still a way from pulling the trigger....one of my (now) biggest concerns is viewing LDs the best way I can on the screen. I know it won't ever be BluRay, but I think it can still be pretty watchable, and you can't beat the sound quality..... So, what kind of screen are you watching yours on? Any tricks to how you hooked it up, etc? I have a friend who uses a scaler and a projector to get pretty nice results, curious if anyone else is going that route....

Author:	admin [ 14 Oct 2011, 06:59 ]
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Had good results with the built-in scaler of the NEC HT1100 I bought in 2004. Projecting "horizontally flipped" and trapeze-corrected backwards on a mirror to get a bigger screen size on a white wall. Julien

Author:	lons_vex [ 14 Oct 2011, 08:54 ]
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I use a Pioneer Plasma these days, KRP500A. Took a while to get the settings right for LD viewing, but I like it now. If I had the space though, I'd probably still have a CRT somewhere just to watch LD's on it. More or less got the Plasma to watch HD content.

Author:	publius [ 14 Oct 2011, 15:12 ]
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I'm mostly using a HD CRT, with its built-in scaler. There is a significant annoyance involved, because it apparently has a "film cadence" function which is impossible to turn off (at least, I switched off the option, & it still does this), which chokes on bad video edits, which appear on many LDs. The result is sometimes a second or more of "stuttering" with reversed field order. Other than that, the picture is excellent.

Author:	ratkins [ 14 Oct 2011, 17:12 ]
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I have a Mitsubishi 65" DLP WD-65833. It's a big mutha but the picture is absolutely gorgeous. I run the video cable directly into it and the sound through a Sony amp. It does some upscaling in the TV itself that really makes my lasers shine. As an example, it made my Discovision copy of Dual look so good I thought I could walk right into the picture.

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Author:	invenio [ 14 Oct 2011, 17:59 ]
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150" projector screen with Epson 8700UB projector. Using an Onkyo TX-SR875 to upscale image. You can check out my setup at: http://www.blu-ray.com/community/gallery.php?member=invenio

Author:	sega3dmm [ 14 Oct 2011, 20:41 ]
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My LD player is hooked up to an LG 42" 1080p TV. I hook up the video via composite into the TV itself, and the audio via optical on my A/V receiver. My receiver can upscale LD to 1080i, but it results in a very soft and blurred picture. Directly to the TV it is very sharp, and the picture looks pretty good. There are definitely artifacts in the TV when converting the analog signal into digital. When the LD is in freeze-frame mode, the picture is all jittery and distorted, ruining the meaning of freeze-frame at all. There are also some smearing and interlace artifacts, but I'm happy with it. I have a Mitsubishi Megaview CRT analog television that is just fantastic. Although I have yet to hook up my LD player to it, as both the player and TV are separated in different houses, but I'm sure the picture will be fantastic.

Author:	elahrairrah [ 14 Oct 2011, 21:00 ]
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sega3dmm wrote: My LD player is hooked up to an LG 42" 1080p TV. I hook up the video via composite into the TV itself, and the audio via optical on my A/V receiver. My receiver can upscale LD to 1080i, but it results in a very soft and blurred picture. Directly to the TV it is very sharp, and the picture looks pretty good. There are definitely artifacts in the TV when converting the analog signal into digital. When the LD is in freeze-frame mode, the picture is all jittery and distorted, ruining the meaning of freeze-frame at all. There are also some smearing and interlace artifacts, but I'm happy with it. I have a Mitsubishi Megaview CRT analog television that is just fantastic. Although I have yet to hook up my LD player to it, as both the player and TV are separated in different houses, but I'm sure the picture will be fantastic. As far as the freeze framing goes, I think Pioneer saw this coming and implemented on most of the later models the ability to "freeze field" in addition to "freeze frame." This old thread from alt.video.laserdisc details it: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/37582 ... rame-discs While it downs the resolution by half, it is much steadier on a digital display. That thread states that the R7G and X9 can do this. I believe the DVL-919 does this too.

Author:	laserbite34 [ 15 Oct 2011, 00:15 ]
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No I don’t use HD flat screens I still use my trusty CRT 32” Panasonic for regular viewing and LCD HD ready 1080i only which looks fine on bed sheet and bed sheets were used in the early days of cinema the very early days, now then! Bluray is worthless format for colour and picture on nearly 98% of major titles (that’s my opinion). Only a few ever so look spot on or mirrored as close to the film release print. I have yet to see a decent LCD or Plasma sounds bad as its not what you’d call GREEN! Plus its heavy so its bad not worth the hassle for any oversize paper weight hanging on the wall. So I’m going to stick with my CRT until it gives up the ghost then might think about an LCD flat screen that can display the laserdisc and DVD without any issues what so ever. BRITISH HD TV IS RUBBISH!

Author:	sega3dmm [ 15 Oct 2011, 01:07 ]
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elahrairrah wrote: As far as the freeze framing goes, I think Pioneer saw this coming and implemented on most of the later models the ability to "freeze field" in addition to "freeze frame." Nope. This is not the case. I've hooked up my player (Pioneer CLD-A100) to many different televisions, a DLP, a CRT, and an LCD projector. It is definitely an artifact of the LG HDTV, because on other TVs, it's still.

Author:	lizardkingjr [ 15 Oct 2011, 01:55 ]
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SONY KD-36XS955 36" CRT HDTV. The comb filter on this display is fantastic! TLK

Author:	vinylcollector [ 15 Oct 2011, 03:21 ]
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sega3dmm wrote: elahrairrah wrote: As far as the freeze framing goes, I think Pioneer saw this coming and implemented on most of the later models the ability to "freeze field" in addition to "freeze frame." Nope. This is not the case. I've hooked up my player (Pioneer CLD-A100) to many different televisions, a DLP, a CRT, and an LCD projector. It is definitely an artifact of the LG HDTV, because on other TVs, it's still. This might help you. From a CRT tv I got one of those small 19" LCD to give it a try to see what it was like as it was on a cheap door crasher type sale. Having now tried 3 different brands, (Samsung, VisionQuest, Polaroid) compatibility is the big issue. I found what is an issue on one LCD brand might not be an issue on another brand, probably how good the tv is at handling a interlaced signal. The jitter still picture was a problem I encountered, especially my Pioneer CLD-3030 with the special digital effects which jittered those features also. The VisionQuest LCD did a perfect still picture, but had shadow lines scrolling diagonally on the screen (ground interference issue) The Samsung and Polaroid both had a jittered still picture. I have a Magnavox vcr recorder/dvd recorder combi and I run my LD signal into that, and then from the combi to the LCD. I switch the combi from vcr to dvd setting and I get a perfect still picture. I loose a bit of picture quality but it's jitter free still picture, and then switch it back to vcr for regular LD watching. You could probably run the LD signal through any dvd recorder with inputs.

Author:	yazorin [ 15 Oct 2011, 04:20 ]
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30 in sharp crt 2007, probably one of the last crts ever made, and probably one of the best it looks great, but its the size of a stove lol

Author:	mikeystoyz [ 15 Oct 2011, 04:59 ]
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62 inch Mitsubishi Rear Screen Projector with the LD hooked up to a dvd upscaler and hdmi output.

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Author:	Guest [ 16 Oct 2011, 23:17 ]
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42in Samsung Plasma. It looks pretty good unless I zoom in on letterboxed material. I've been trying to play around with my Pioneer VSX 920K's up scaling ability, but it cripples my ability to zoom into letterboxed material.

Author:	limeibook86 [ 17 Oct 2011, 01:23 ]
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I'm using my Panasonic 42" Plasma. LDs look pretty good... I have all four United States release LD Squeeze titles. Free Willy looks pretty damn good on the widescreen TV, especially considering it's just a composite video signal!

Author:	elahrairrah [ 17 Oct 2011, 16:24 ]
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lizardkingjr wrote: SONY KD-36XS955 36" CRT HDTV. The comb filter on this display is fantastic! TLK I was THIS CLOSE to getting that model of WEGA TV. The 1440x1080i resolution was very tempting. I opted for the slightly less resolution KV-40XBR800, simply for the bigger screen. At least it still has an HDCP compatible DVI input should I finally join the dark side and get a blu-ray player.

Author:	rixrex [ 18 Oct 2011, 01:24 ]
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There's 2 types available on the cheap that will allow you to use any HD devices you have. 1. For direct view CRT, I do not think you can beat the Sony Trinitron Wega series, either the standard 480 4:3 format models that went up to 40" (approx 35" widescreen with top and bottom bars) or the widescreen HD 720p/1080i models that went up to 36" (which would allow a 4:3 view eqivalent to about 32" with sidebars for standard format LDs). Thanks to the fact that they are so heavy to handle, they are selling for a fraction of what they are really worth in viewing value on craigslist. I got mine for $80, in practically new shape. I use a DVDO HD to up to HD mode, but the set is so good in 480 that it's almost not noticable. 2. I also have the Pioneer 64" elite series of rear projection CRTs that was specifically designed for LD viewing and is superb for that. These were really expensive when new back in 1999-2000, and mine has held up very well. Best quality build of any set I ever owned. It also accepts 1080i HD on 3 different inputs, or alternate of 480p on two of those. There is also a 52" model. I've seen these sets practically being given away now. Again heavy but on rollers so not too bad to move, and they have a convergence adjust that grids the whole screen so adjustment can be done everywhere, not just the center. The last set I personally use for LDs is a Sharp Aquos LCD HD set that I am very pleased with. It really looks great and much better than my friends' TVs that are plasma sets. However, I'm really intested in testing out a Pioneer Kuro plasma to see how well it does with LDs.

Author:	lizardkingjr [ 18 Oct 2011, 14:19 ]
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elahrairrah wrote: lizardkingjr wrote: SONY KD-36XS955 36" CRT HDTV. The comb filter on this display is fantastic! TLK I was THIS CLOSE to getting that model of WEGA TV. The 1440x1080i resolution was very tempting. I opted for the slightly less resolution KV-40XBR800, simply for the bigger screen. At least it still has an HDCP compatible DVI input should I finally join the dark side and get a blu-ray player. Having a digital tuner was a high priority for me. Having HDMI input was a bonus. What's the comb filter like on the KV-40XBR800? You can see how well it performs via the Snell and Wilcox 2 test pattern on the Video Essentials LD. TLK

Author:	jjhunsecker [ 22 Oct 2011, 21:37 ]
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rixrex wrote: However, I'm really intested in testing out a Pioneer Kuro plasma to see how well it does with LDs. A friend of mine has a 50" Pioneer Kuro plasma with a Pioneer CLD-99 LD player hooked up to it, through a Sony A/V receiver (not sure about the latter model). He says his laserdiscs look terrible on this TV -- that all the flaws of the discs are now visible. I don't know what cables he uses for his LD player, or most of the details of his set-up, or if he tried using any upscalers to improve the image quality.