That's what I had read somewhere. Don't remember if it was Pioneer literature or in one of the broadcast magazines I used to subscribe to....
But it was great for sports instant replay (quicker than cuing up videotape)
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| Author: | tomtastic [ 14 Sep 2012, 21:45 ] |
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Yeah, that's what the guy who sold it said. They were used for pin point editing. They could move to any part of the disc and record at the same time because of the dual laser setup. This one was from Interval Research Corp. They didn't use it much going from the counter. Apparently they could record in the 525 line range with component. They could have been used for instant replay. Maybe when we were all watching Monday Night Football the replays at least were from an LD source... |
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| Author: | Guest [ 14 Sep 2012, 22:13 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pioneer VDR-V1000 Project |
That's what I had read somewhere. Don't remember if it was Pioneer literature or in one of the broadcast magazines I used to subscribe to.... But it was great for sports instant replay (quicker than cuing up videotape)
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| Author: | tomtastic [ 18 Sep 2012, 02:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pioneer VDR-V1000 Project |
Ok, good news. The Pioneer VDR-V1000 project is back on.  I've brokered a deal for 2 VDM-V130 discs. I should have waited a few weeks as another unit popped up on eBay. Actually the seller had 2 units and 2 discs. He didn't want to sell just the discs so I can understand that, so now I'll have 3 units and 2 discs. He cut me a really good deal on them and shipping's not too bad as he's reasonably close. I'll have 2 units with discs that are fully functional and 1 extra for parts. All 3 work, or I could sell one at some point if I can get more discs. Actually the first unit was probably worth buying as it came with the operation/repair manual which isn't available online as far as I know and the rack mount which I plan on setting one up in a rack with studio monitors for a complete laserdisc recording studio. Of course recordings are limited to the caddy discs, so if you're just now checking in, don't start drooling. It's more of a experimental project. These new laserdisc recordings are limited to VDM-V130 discs that are just playable in these units. I need to get some cables ordered next which are easy to get. With any luck we could have a new recording of EP 2, first and only one in existence, or at least half of it. 64 minutes worth of CAV on 2 discs. But I'm planning on the loop method of continuous playback from one disc. If anyone has any for sale I'd pay around 100 each for them. That's a pretty good percentage compared to what I paid for the units. They originally cost 1200 with 40000 for the unit about 3 percent of recorder price. |
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| Author: | tomtastic [ 20 Sep 2012, 23:10 ] |
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Got the discs in today. They are in the original boxes and also have the plastic sleeves.         Holding open the slide to see the recordable laserdisc:   has a protect mode like on DV tapes:  after ejecting the disc: 
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| Author: | tomtastic [ 21 Sep 2012, 02:08 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pioneer VDR-V1000 Project |
This seller had this posted before for 8000.00 or best offer. After getting mine I think he's way off on the price. http://www.ebay.com/itm/160884936319?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 |
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| Author: | laserlord [ 23 Sep 2012, 12:36 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pioneer VDR-V1000 Project |
tomtastic wrote: Here is a picture of one. It's a VDM-V130, it's in a caddy just like the CRV ones from Sony  If anyone comes across one I'd be interested in buying it for the right price. I'd be interested in multiple discs as well, should more turn up. If the actual disc would be taken out of its plastic housing, would it be playable in every ld player ? just wondering... |
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| Author: | Guest [ 23 Sep 2012, 13:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pioneer VDR-V1000 Project |
So can you now just like burn a laserdisc from a dvd source and playback on a normal laserdisc player? |
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| Author: | tomtastic [ 23 Sep 2012, 17:22 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pioneer VDR-V1000 Project |
They can be removed but I don't think they'd play in anything other than the LaserRecorder. The discs just sit inside the caddy and top and bottom are screwed together. My goal is just to record to them as that's the only recordable LaserDisc option now. They have to be played back on these units only. If we could get our hands on the ODC 610 these units could be used to make a master. But I have a pretty good feeling the ODC were not simple table top units like the VDR. There were several recording outlets you could go to back in the 90's to get some discs made in a short time if you wanted small runs. I found this website last night which indicates you could get LD's made from Pioneer and a few other places including ODC which made the RLV's. RLV's were either plastic or glass. You could actually play the glass discs like a real LD. I'm wondering if those glass masters from mikeystoys are actually ODC glass discs? I don't know for sure, just wondering. Here's the site: http://www.djdesign.com/tutorial/makers.html Also interesting to read at this site: LasrPlay Laserdisc Synchronizers: http://www.djdesign.com/products/prodlasr.html Here's some links in the wayback machine of ODC and a few other places that did on site LD recording: ODC home page: http://web.archive.org/web/19981203022403/http://www.optical-disc.com/index.htm LaserDisc Recoding Center, Inc. (you can click on the images for more pages, the images don't load but the links work, some good info here) http://web.archive.org/web/20000304030120/http://www.laserdisc-recording.com/ |
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| Author: | integra [ 13 Apr 2013, 22:30 ] |
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I have a VDR-V1000 too. It's a PAL version and it's broken.... I don't have work for it, so I'm trying to find someone who is interested in this machine.... I will ship it, but I'm not going to pay for it  (I'ts very heavy)
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| Author: | moon-child-1982 [ 03 Jul 2013, 14:45 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pioneer VDR-V1000 Project |
very cool I would like to have one of those big recordable Laserdisc just for fun for my collection, how much is it's value aprox |
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| Author: | disclord [ 03 Jul 2013, 17:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pioneer VDR-V1000 Project |
Technically, the 12-inch recordable optical discs in the caddies are not LaserDiscs that meet the MCA/Philips standards - they are a component format that stores the luma and chroma seperately in a time compressed format and are in no way compatible with standard LaserVision/LaserDisc hardware - notice they don't bear the LaserVision/LaserDisc trademark "L" logo. The size might be the same but they can't be handled directly, thus the caddy, and the component recording system is completely different than the consumer composite format. They are to LaserDisc as Betacam is to Betamax - totally different and incompatible formats that just happn to use the same form factor. Only ODC's RLV system created discs that met the LaserVision/LaserDisc standards and were playable on consumer players. So recording a film to one of the component format discs is not at all the same as having a real composite format LaserDisc. |
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| Author: | elahrairrah [ 03 Jul 2013, 19:56 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pioneer VDR-V1000 Project |
nllaserdiscnl wrote: So can you now just like burn a laserdisc from a dvd source and playback on a normal laserdisc player? Nah, think of it like a giant MiniDisc recorder and disc. Can only be played back on the same machine on which it was recorded. |
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| Author: | disclord [ 03 Jul 2013, 22:41 ] |
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elahrairrah wrote: nllaserdiscnl wrote: So can you now just like burn a laserdisc from a dvd source and playback on a normal laserdisc player? Nah, think of it like a giant MiniDisc recorder and disc. Can only be played back on the same machine on which it was recorded. Which means its not a "real" LaserDisc since its a component source. Its like calling Betacam a Betamax tape. |
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| Author: | elahrairrah [ 03 Jul 2013, 23:09 ] |
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disclord wrote: Only ODC's RLV system created discs that met the LaserVision/LaserDisc standards and were playable on consumer players. Say one of us did get our hands on one of those RLV recorders and blanks and recorded something from a high quality source (like a downconverted blu-ray or downconverted HDTV or cable--my cable box luckily downconverts HD signals through the S-Video and Composite connections), it would take a hit in quality when played back, right? Colors would degrade and there'd be some analog video noise because of the inherent flaws in the format; even if played on the best LD player? |
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| Author: | disclord [ 04 Jul 2013, 00:25 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pioneer VDR-V1000 Project |
elahrairrah wrote: disclord wrote: Only ODC's RLV system created discs that met the LaserVision/LaserDisc standards and were playable on consumer players. Say one of us did get our hands on one of those RLV recorders and blanks and recorded something from a high quality source (like a downconverted blu-ray or downconverted HDTV or cable--my cable box luckily downconverts HD signals through the S-Video and Composite connections), it would take a hit in quality when played back, right? Colors would degrade and there'd be some analog video noise because of the inherent flaws in the format; even if played on the best LD player? Yes, NTSC is only 440 lines of luma resolution at best on LaserDisc and depending on how the color is encoded its 120 lines of color for orange and cyan and only 30 lines for all other colors. You'd need a Faroudja Super NTSC encoder to get any higher color bandwidth and the max then is 160 lines. Because its an FM signal, noise will always be a problem so it would be a big come down from the original master. just look at an LD compared to a BD or DVD. The ODC RLV writer is a huge machine, about the size of one of those old Xerox machines like in the movie 9 to 5. I doubt many were made and that any are in working condition now. And they needed air cooling and the disc was spun via pnumatic air pressure to eliminate vibrations and such getting to the disc. I wasn't a simple stand alone system like the component recordable system. Drop the idea of making new LaserDisc's - its not like making LP's and it ain't gonna happen. |
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| Author: | moon-child-1982 [ 04 Jul 2013, 08:07 ] |
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disclord wrote: Drop the idea of making new LaserDisc's - its not like making LP's and it ain't gonna happen. you can make a LP out of stone with a pick and need for playing only a needle - all without electricity  Does anybody have pictures of that Laserdisc recordable machine that produce normal LDs |
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| Author: | disclord [ 05 Jul 2013, 14:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pioneer VDR-V1000 Project |
moon-child-1982 wrote: disclord wrote: Drop the idea of making new LaserDisc's - its not like making LP's and it ain't gonna happen. you can make a LP out of stone with a pick and need for playing only a needle - all without electricity Does anybody have pictures of that Laserdisc recordable machine that produce normal LDs I do, and its big - about 4feet tall and 3 feet wide and just as deep. I'll scan it today and post it as soon as I get home from my Dr appt. |
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| Author: | moon-child-1982 [ 05 Jul 2013, 14:48 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pioneer VDR-V1000 Project |
I can remember seen a scene where somebody recorded a movie shot on Laserdisc  Guess it was from this LD or maybe some Terminator making of, I will watch this one at weekend, hope to find it, SFX Special (1984) [SS098-0022] http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/28211/SS0 ... %281984%29 |
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| Author: | elahrairrah [ 05 Jul 2013, 14:57 ] |
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disclord wrote: Drop the idea of making new LaserDisc's - its not like making LP's and it ain't gonna happen. Disclord, stop destroying our dreams!!! 
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| Author: | disclord [ 05 Jul 2013, 15:46 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Pioneer VDR-V1000 Project |
Here's a photo of the ODC RLV recorder. I believe they had the ability to add digital sound towards the end, but up until then it was FM Analog sound with CX Noise Reduction. I don't know if their Extended Play discs were CLV or CAA - although that would just be a software change to master CAA discs. 
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