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gandjrarities
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Post subject: Whose covers are best made?  Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 15:17 |
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To my mind, Roan LD covers are the most sturdy, for some reason. You almost never find them with "expression" splits on the edges, and they seem to resist creases and even rub-wear better than any other covers. The cardboard quality is clearly a factor, and maybe the printed paper cover. Anyone have any info on why they hold up best over time? Next sturdiest, in my mind, were those from MGM-UA. They show shelf-wear but rarely split. Paramount's are the worst, especially their slipcases, which are extremely susceptible to cover creases and stress lines. Flimsy cardboard is the culprit there. Do you have any best and worst candidates in the cover manufacturing field? J
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Post subject: Re: Whose covers are best made?  Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 17:05 |
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gandjrarities wrote: Do you have any best and worst candidates in the cover manufacturing field? I'd say "Go Japanese". They make the best cover quality out there. There's a reason for that: they were mandated by law to sell audio/video in Japan only if it has been manufactured in Japan, both disk(s) and cover. That costs a lot more to use Japanese labor than cheaper alternatives somewhere else in Asia. They had to compensate for the increase of price with better quality, real booklets, better plastics and additional bonus (such as earlier release or the infamous "Japanese Bonus Tracks"). Importing US CDs has been a long standing issue (banning, bumping up the prices?) because they would sell at 1500/2000JPY when Japanese releases are typically priced at 3000JPY and above. CD Singles used to be priced at 1000JPY as there was no alternative to them. Something else happened in the USA. Although the discs could be manufactured anywhere (USA/Europe/Asia), the covers had to be printed in the USA by law. You will often see different notices on US cover for "Disk manufactured in ... / Cover printed in...". It's regulated. And more often that not, they went for the cheapest they could get... forcing us to ship LDs outside of their cover if we don't want to get a spine-busted carnage on arrival. Julien
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Post subject: Re: Whose covers are best made?  Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 21:03 |
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For me it was some of the early discovision LD covers which came with a plastic coating on the actual card sleeve. This made them waterproof, scuff resistant and tear resistant. A good example is the Fleetwood Mac live documentary/concert in support of their Tusk Album: http://www.lddb.com/laserdisc/28717/74- ... cert-(1980) Beware some issues of this same title did not come with the plastic coated top coat on the cover though so if you are a collector watch out for that.
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Post subject: Re: Whose covers are best made?  Posted: 29 Sep 2011, 21:51 |
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My favorites are the sturdy ones that feel sort of like a thin hard bound children's book cover. Halloween Criterion (#247) would be an example.
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Post subject: Re: Whose covers are best made?  Posted: 01 Oct 2011, 00:49 |
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The movie Analyze This(from Warner Bros) has a nice thick cover
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Post subject: Re: Whose covers are best made?  Posted: 01 Oct 2011, 02:20 |
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Speaking of standard jackets, not boxes or anything like that, the Japanese covers are definitely preferable. I have, for one reason or another, a few anime discs in both US & Japanese editions, in which the same jacket design was used for both releases. Not only are the Japanese ones sturdier, they're smooth on the inside, without the "lip" American-made jackets typically have, which the inner sleeves & inserts have a nasty tendency of getting caught on.
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Post subject: Re: Whose covers are best made?  Posted: 01 Oct 2011, 06:00 |
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Just have to echo the folks already weighing in. Japanese gatefolds and jackets are hands down built to last. Artwork,photo inserts,and obi strips also make for more of a "prize" on the shelves ! Seam "expression" tears are just so hard to love.......... 
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Post subject: Re: Whose covers are best made?  Posted: 01 Oct 2011, 14:53 |
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This thread has explained a few things to me. I've always wonder why, in my search for used LDs in Junk shops and the like here in Japan, I come across so many laserdiscs with covers that look brand new, but almost all the covers of LDs I get on trade/pruchases from the states always have some dent or crease ect. on them. Interesting stuff  .
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Post subject: Re: Whose covers are best made?  Posted: 01 Oct 2011, 18:05 |
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laserdisc_fan wrote: Japanese sleeves are certainly stronger and thicker than European or US sleeves but they also seem to suffer from a phenomenon that other sleeves did not - sleeve rot! I admit I have never encountered this phenomenon. The only Japanese covers I have in bad condition are attributable to storage & handling, such as the El-Hazard box set which was nibbled on by mice in a warehouse.
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Post subject: Re: Whose covers are best made?  Posted: 08 Oct 2011, 20:24 |
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laserdisc_fan wrote: I had US LDs shipped to me with pizza stains on the inside of the sleeve at the opening....enough said!! I recently received some LDs shipped in a used Pizza (delivery) box - you know the ones: cheap cardboard all greased up. And there was absolutely no packaging, not even a sheet of paper between the sleeve and the box. I reckon I've received about 1k shipments for my different collections in the last 7 years, this was definitely one of the most shocking packaging methods ever. Got the discs themselves very cheap off eBay, but still ... Oh btw: sent from Germany ...
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Post subject: Re: Whose covers are best made?  Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 11:18 |
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laserdisc_fan wrote: Actually clean pizza boxes are ideal for shipping laserdiscs. LOL yeah buy one get one free LOL it would save on money for boxes which would cost I’m sure a bit more than Pizza box and keep a little extra red peppers in the box for the buyer, he might feel hungry after opening up the box. Interesting thread and I never gave much thought to the quality of the singles and gatefold Laserdisc covers. I have looked at some and noticed some have thicker cardboard and some are less lose when starching the two sides of the cardboard. The MGM cardboard looks good I have to say and I need plastic cover for my 2001: a space odyssey (ML102233) as its starting to get a little worn on the sides and needs preserving in plastic cover. The Abyss cover is bit, this thread needs pictures and my camera is full and I have no new-card for the camera otherwise I ‘d try and get some good pictures. I noticed some have folder cardboard on the inside this were the its glued on The Abyss cover and on the MGM cover its different. On the STAR WARS the phantom menace its the same as the MGM only (sorry my mistake) I took a deeper peek inside and it has lip that is folded in the middle of the cover only The Abyss is a different cover design, is that not right? Grease THX DOLBY AC-3 Laserdisc cover is still in good nick and its got no plastic cover thou It really should have. Cardboard tends to thin on some covers and thicker on few.
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Post subject: Re: Whose covers are best made?  Posted: 25 Oct 2011, 01:58 |
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admin wrote: gandjrarities wrote: Do you have any best and worst candidates in the cover manufacturing field? I'd say "Go Japanese". They make the best cover quality out there. There's a reason for that: they were mandated by law to sell audio/video in Japan only if it has been manufactured in Japan, both disk(s) and cover. Julien To me the best jackets are for Japanese releases. The jackets are sturdy, are tight (if you open them slightly they feel very tight), and the colors are more vibrant. Plus, you get an Obi strip. What's not to love?  MGM/UA had the best jackets in the U.S., especially the gatefolds. The discs even came in custom printed poly-lined paper sleeves. STAY AWESOME! 
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Post subject: Re: Whose covers are best made?  Posted: 03 Nov 2011, 14:28 |
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By far the best covers I've come across were the ones made specifically for the LD release of The Vision of Escaflowne. The covers are textured so they have a sort of "hammered" feel to them and thus are thicker than normal. And on top of that you get some pretty artwork from Nobuteru Yuuki adorning them! 
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