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 Post subject: The Day of the Triffids
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I've been watching the film on youtube then started to look it up here while it still playing.

I've noticed from reports the Laserdisc has sticky edges due to 3M from reading the reports.

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For a film, made in 1962 its scary sci-fi.

"Your right its sound that attracts them".

"SALT WATER"!
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 Post subject: Re: The Day of the Triffids
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yes, sticky edges but there are no issues with the disc.
i had 2 copies and both were sticky, you can just clean them off and everything is fine!
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PostPosted: 25 Dec 2012, 02:11 
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Sticky edges don't mean anything other than the disc was made by 3M. They are not a negative in any way except you have to clean them off every once in a while.
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 Post subject: Re: The Day of the Triffids
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If you have to clean then due to glue won't the discs come apart??
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 Post subject: Re: The Day of the Triffids
PostPosted: 25 Dec 2012, 03:13 
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laserbite34 wrote:
If you have to clean then due to glue won't the discs come apart??


No, just use the edge of a coin or your fingernail or something and scrape it off. If any gets on the disc surface, warm water and soap will remove it - or a small amount of Goo-gone. 3M discs can't come apart - they are bonded just as tightly as discs from Pioneer and others.
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 Post subject: Re: The Day of the Triffids
PostPosted: 25 Dec 2012, 03:59 
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They were made in Minnesota. We like our edges a little sticky up here; that way we can't accidentally drop them. :P

My 3M Night of the Living Dead was my first experience with sticky edges.
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 Post subject: Re: The Day of the Triffids
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gumbyandpals wrote:
They were made in Minnesota. We like our edges a little sticky up here; that way we can't accidentally drop them. :P

My 3M Night of the Living Dead was my first experience with sticky edges.

Minnesota has sticky fingers. :mrgreen:
Well I can't say I've encountered one, yet. Does it wipe off the fingers easily as I have no knowledge of this.
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it's not that type of sticky, it won't stick to your fingers unless you ball it up and remove it.

almost like rubber cement but stronger, it's more tacky.
you can use goo gone, lighter fluid, rubber cement thinner or such on a rag.
no acetone, that will mess up the plastic also.

you can even get a rubber eraser and work on it, but if it gets too hot then it will start to smear and you have to
wait a little and start again.
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 Post subject: Re: The Day of the Triffids
PostPosted: 25 Dec 2012, 06:25 
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A super fine grit sponge type sandpaper block works well to to remove glue from the edges without filing the disc down.

As Rein-O said, it's like a super sticky rubber cement, but it smears easily if it warms at all. Chilling a disc, then removing the glue might work well.
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 Post subject: Re: The Day of the Triffids
PostPosted: 25 Dec 2012, 15:13 
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rein-o wrote:
it's not that type of sticky, it won't stick to your fingers unless you ball it up and remove it.

almost like rubber cement but stronger, it's more tacky.
you can use goo gone, lighter fluid, rubber cement thinner or such on a rag.
no acetone, that will mess up the plastic also.

you can even get a rubber eraser and work on it, but if it gets too hot then it will start to smear and you have to
wait a little and start again.

Right, gotcha I know what you mean! :thumbup: I've come across something similar in the past.

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As Rein-O said, it's like a super sticky rubber cement, but it smears easily if it warms at all. Chilling a disc, then removing the glue might work well.
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 Post subject: Re: The Day of the Triffids
PostPosted: 25 Dec 2012, 15:49 
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Philips PDO used the same 2P (Photo-Polymerization) 'cold casting' process to make discs as 3M did, so I always assumed that Philips also used the glue sheet like 3M to bond the discs together into one. Since I only have a few PAL discs I don't have any 'real' experience with them - except for the weird bronzing coffee-stained look that slowly overtook my German LD of Planet Of The Apes. I assume the disc is rotted.

It's a shame that the US and Japanese LaserDisc industry didn't adopt the 2P process for making discs - especially companies like Kuraray, Mitsubishi and WEA - the 2P process made a more accurate replica of the stamper, with an order of magnitude fewer defects and less intermodulation between the video and audio FM carriers, than the hot injection molding that everyone else used. (it's also a shame that 3M never adopted CAA Extended Play encoding since their CLV discs often had crosstalk even when perfectly flat and played on a perfectly aligned player) Since DiscoVision patented a 2P process in the early 70's that was distinct from 3M's, the LaserDisc industry could have used the process without having to license from 3M, who had developed their own 2P process independently ( and licensed it to Philips) - and successfully defended their patents in court. I don't know if any CD's have been made with the 2P process.

Philips helped set up 3M in the LaserDisc manufacturing business and also helped Sony with industrial players, doing both in retaliation against MCA DiscoVision for forming the Universal Pioneer corporation with Pioneer and allowing them to make discs in Japan.
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 Post subject: Re: The Day of the Triffids
PostPosted: 25 Dec 2012, 16:07 
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I see.
Well until I see cheap going "The Day of The Triffids" Laserdisc due to being sticky hey maybe they wanted Laserdic owners to feel unsettled with its stickiness to make them think a Triffid is standing behind them? :mrgreen:
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PostPosted: 25 Dec 2012, 16:23 
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laserbite34 wrote:
I see.
Well until I see cheap going "The Day of The Triffids" Laserdisc due to being sticky...


Perhaps I'm just not awake yet, but I can't figure out what you mean above. Did some words get dropped? (that's a problem I often have - also exchanging , for M since they are right next to each other on the ipad and my fat fingers hit the two keys at once on the iPad keyboard- so the word tomorrow might look like to,orrow if I, not careful to catch it - and for those that see that mistake a lot in my posts, now you know why - it's Apple's fault)
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 Post subject: Re: The Day of the Triffids
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laserbite34 wrote:
I've been watching the film on youtube then started to look it up here while it still playing.

I've noticed from reports the Laserdisc has sticky edges due to 3M from reading the reports.

Day of the Triffids, The (1962) [ID7638JO]


For a film, made in 1962 its scary sci-fi.

"Your right its sound that attracts them".

"SALT WATER"!


Yes, a pretty scary setup. I saw it at the drive-in as a tot. It was really frightening, and I also saw The Earth Dies Screaming, another fine British scarefest.

However, just imagine how much scarier the Triffids would be if done by the Stan Winston special effects people?
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rixrex wrote:
laserbite34 wrote:
I've been watching the film on youtube then started to look it up here while it still playing.

I've noticed from reports the Laserdisc has sticky edges due to 3M from reading the reports.

Day of the Triffids, The (1962) [ID7638JO]


For a film, made in 1962 its scary sci-fi.

"Your right its sound that attracts them".

"SALT WATER"!


Yes, a pretty scary setup. I saw it at the drive-in as a tot. It was really frightening, and I also saw The Earth Dies Screaming, another fine British scarefest.

However, just imagine how much scarier the Triffids would be if done by the Stan Winston special effects people?

:think: A lot better I would say. :)
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I also liked the BBC's mini-series from the early 80's - although done on the cheap, it's a good, scary show and the Triffid effects are superb, especially their whipping tongue/stinger.
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 Post subject: Re: The Day of the Triffids
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I missed that one. I'll have to look for it now. The UK has had some great and literate sci-fi thrillers, even if considered of B-movie status. The whole Quatermass series is one of the best, and the several science fiction films done by Hammer.

And of course, the superb series from Brian Clemens, Thriller. (Not to be confused with the Boris Karloff series.)
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rixrex wrote:
I missed that one. I'll have to look for it now. The UK has had some great and literate sci-fi thrillers, even if considered of B-movie status. The whole Quatermass series is one of the best, and the several science fiction films done by Hammer.

And of course, the superb series from Brian Clemens, Thriller. (Not to be confused with the Boris Karloff series.)


I love Quartermass films. And the Trollenberg Terror (aka The Crawling Eye) - oh, and especially The Day The Earth Caught Fire. Everything about that film is wonderful, and like Trollenberg, has the beautiful Janet Munro in it. Hammer films are always a joy.
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did a search and can't find any topic that was talking about sticky edges other than this and one other.
just received about 2 weeks ago a sealed copy of Beauty and the Beast: Special Edition #128 (1946) [CC1245L]

discs played fine but both had sticky edges.
i've never had a criterion with sticky before :think:
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