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Author:  tomtastic [ 02 Jan 2013, 03:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

Still, I love the packaging on both the US LD and and Jap. LD and the 5.1 is fairly good compared to original DVD though the Superbit/Ultimate Edition DVD has DTS track 768 kbs and a 448 kbs DD, original DVD and LD have 348 kbs audio. Later BD has TrueHD or uncompressed PCM 5.1.

Author:  disclord [ 02 Jan 2013, 03:21 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

That's a Pioneer pressing - Its safe. But is it a Japanese release? It's not an American release.

Author:  alien [ 02 Jan 2013, 03:28 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

disclord wrote:
That's a Pioneer pressing - Its safe. But is it a Japanese release? It's not an American release.

It seems the actual Laserdisc was made in Japan yes. Could that mean that the audio might not be in english? or that even if the audio is in english, burnt in Japanese subtitles will appear on the image? Because the seller doesn't actuelly own a player, so she can't test the disc for me unfortunately.

Author:  disclord [ 02 Jan 2013, 03:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

alien wrote:
disclord wrote:
That's a Pioneer pressing - Its safe. But is it a Japanese release? It's not an American release.

It seems the actual Laserdisc was made in Japan yes. Could that mean that the audio might not be in english? or that even if the audio is in english, burnt in Japanese subtitles will appear on the image? Because the seller doesn't actuelly own a player, so she can't test the disc for me unfortunately.


It will be English but since it's a Japanese release it will have subtitles, most likely in the letterbox bars. Lots of American LaserDisc's are pressed in Japan so a disc made in Japan does not automatically mean its for the Japanese market.

Author:  tomtastic [ 02 Jan 2013, 03:55 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

It's a Hong Kong full screen CLV:

GBS001
notice the mint marks match

can't read the first digits, but probably GBS, stamped GBS 001 on label. Full screen so it will have subtitles on image.
001-A01-P

Author:  disclord [ 02 Jan 2013, 04:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

tomtastic wrote:
It's a Hong Kong full screen CLV:

GBS001
notice the mint marks match

can't read the first digits, but probably GBS, stamped GBS 001 on label. Full screen so it will have subtitles on image.
001-A01-P


EEW, yuck. Avoid it.

Author:  tomtastic [ 02 Jan 2013, 04:08 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

I'd still get it. It has a nice cover. I'd put it on my wall. That copy of Executive Decision is neat too. Critical Decision, I haven't seen any with the alternate title before.

Author:  alien [ 02 Jan 2013, 04:12 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

tomtastic wrote:
It's a Hong Kong full screen CLV:

GBS001
notice the mint marks match

can't read the first digits, but probably GBS, stamped GBS 001 on label. Full screen so it will have subtitles on image.
001-A01-P

Oh really? Well damn :(

Pan & Scan, Japanese subtittles burnt onto to the actual image, no thank you. I have canceled my order for The Fifth Element.

Thank you tomtastic for letting me know ahead of time...

Author:  tomtastic [ 02 Jan 2013, 04:15 ]
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As far as watching, it wouldn't be great, but it's rare compared to the other releases. That copy of Executive Decision is interesting too. If they didn't cost much, I'd buy them.

Author:  disclord [ 02 Jan 2013, 04:41 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

Is shipping from the US to Australia expensive? I ask because if it's not too bad, try duff's Flix because he has the AC-3 Widescreen US release of The Fifth Element for US$7.99 with no rot guaranteed, and he ships overseas and doesn't charge extra for it. The link to his site is on my Landmarks webpage. He's a great guy and LaserDisc seller and I've never had an issue with anything I've bought from him - and I've spent hundreds of dollars w/him.

Author:  alien [ 02 Jan 2013, 05:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

disclord wrote:
Is shipping from the US to Australia expensive? I ask because if it's not too bad, try duff's Flix because he has the AC-3 Widescreen US release of The Fifth Element for US$7.99 with no rot guaranteed, and he ships overseas and doesn't charge extra for it. The link to his site is on my Landmarks webpage. He's a great guy and LaserDisc seller and I've never had an issue with anything I've bought from him - and I've spent hundreds of dollars w/him.

Thank you for the advice disclord, however I don't seem to have the Microsoft e-mail program the website uses for me to contact him. Does he have a hotmail or yahoo e-mail or something? or perhaps a account here on LDDB? Because otherwise I have no way of reaching him..

Author:  rein-o [ 02 Jan 2013, 05:37 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

it there a pop email for you? you can just cut and paste the email address to your regular account and then
you can contact him. it's the same with me for lddb if i want to contact julien.
good luck.

Author:  alien [ 02 Jan 2013, 05:45 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

rein-o wrote:
it there a pop email for you? you can just cut and paste the email address to your regular account and then
you can contact him. it's the same with me for lddb if i want to contact julien.
good luck.

Unfortunately no there isn't. I just get asked about a product key which I don't have. I cannot progress without entering it and I only initially was on a Microsoft trial program anyway. I never had a product key to begin with but now I can't do anything without it, so I can't access that e-mail program to even copy and paste the link into hotmail. That's why I need someone to tell me his direct e-mail here.

Author:  disclord [ 02 Jan 2013, 05:48 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

alien wrote:
rein-o wrote:
it there a pop email for you? you can just cut and paste the email address to your regular account and then
you can contact him. it's the same with me for lddb if i want to contact julien.
good luck.

Unfortunately no there isn't. I just get asked about a product key which I don't have. I cannot progress without entering it and I only initially was on a Microsoft trial program anyway. I never had a product key to begin with but now I can't do anything without it, so I can't access that e-mail program to even copy and paste the link into hotmail. That's why I need someone to tell me his direct e-mail here.


I PM'd you his personal email.

Author:  jazz2future [ 02 Jan 2013, 20:52 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

What kind of ld player you got tom??

Author:  tomtastic [ 02 Jan 2013, 23:14 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

DVL 90 for main. I have a DVL 700 that needs repaired and a CLD 980 on the shelf.

Author:  disclord [ 02 Jan 2013, 23:27 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

tomtastic wrote:
DVL 90 for main. I have a DVL 700 that needs repaired and a CLD 980 on the shelf.


My DVL-700 needs a new turntable mat because discs slip terribly and it also needs a new loading belt - the one it has now is the original and often can't lift the motor and laser to play a disc. It also needs relubed and general realignment. There's nothing wrong with it electrically though. I'm going to have Duncan work on it and do the mod to make it a DVL-90 with the adjustable video NR and DVD firmware update.

Author:  tomtastic [ 02 Jan 2013, 23:54 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

I never bothered to look at my 700, I just bought it for the remote for the 90. I think it wouldn't power up if I remember right. I just stuck it back in box and onto shelf. Pretty much the same machine from the outside as the 90 when I looked at it last, minus the side panels and glossy front I think, maybe it was just plain black plastic.

Author:  roger [ 03 Jan 2013, 22:01 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

The problem with laserdisc unlike Blu-ray or DVD is that the player you use makes a difference to the picture playback. If you have the best players ever made S9 or X9, the picture is simply amazing. The picture playback is seriously dependent on the player you have. The better the machine, the better the playback. Whereas with DVD or blu-ray you can buy a $100 machine or a $1000 the picture quality will be the same. All you are usually paying more for is better audio and more features and in some cases a better built machine.
Regarding laser rot, it's present in the disc the moment it is pressed. If your disc is playing fine (when new) after 6 months it'll stay fine. And obviously if any disc you buy now plays fine, it will remain fine since there hasn't been a pressing in 11 years. I've had a few successes with discs that were bad and managed to get good copies. Chief among them "Under Siege 2", "Matilda", Eraser" and "Aliens". The one film I did have to give up on was "Air Force One". Could never get a good copy of the CLV side 1. I ended up buying the japanese pressing instead.
I'm not going to even compare HD to SD laserdisc as they are totally different but for a SD format laserdisc can still impress even in this digital age. But you do need an S9 or X9 for maximum quality.

Roger Shore

Author:  rein-o [ 03 Jan 2013, 22:09 ]
Post subject:  Re: Laser Rot

i agree, i switched out my r7g for my office D503 and what a difference.
it's slightly blurry compared to the r7g which gives a great clear picture even on bad discs.
rot is another issue but each player will give different images and TVs and how you have them setup etc.

after posting so many reviews about discs i sort of feel bad as i'm watching with a higher end player
and most don't have that high end of a player.

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