that would be mind blowing. You could have one disc for all of Lord of the Rings and not have multiple discs for both cuts and extras.
And it would be super cool but horrible cost wise though but it's a nice fantasy
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| Author: | xtempo [ 09 Jan 2013, 03:35 ] |
| Post subject: | Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
that would be mind blowing. You could have one disc for all of Lord of the Rings and not have multiple discs for both cuts and extras. And it would be super cool but horrible cost wise though but it's a nice fantasy
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| Author: | edwin240170 [ 09 Jan 2013, 08:51 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
Not only that, but compression can be reduced so we get mindblowing picture & sound quality, think even a BD to the size of a 8" / 20cm disc would be sufficient to get this result ... |
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| Author: | laserdisc_fan [ 09 Jan 2013, 14:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
Yes it's sad we are constrained by the limitations of a 5" disc which itself is facing extinction in the not too distant future  .
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| Author: | acuozzo [ 09 Jan 2013, 18:26 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
I'd be happy if BDs were stored in protective shells like CEDs. I'm sick of handling "raw" discs and having to worry about them. |
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| Author: | elahrairrah [ 09 Jan 2013, 18:52 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
acuozzo wrote: I'd be happy if BDs were stored in protective shells like CEDs. I'm sick of handling "raw" discs and having to worry about them. I thought blu-rays were unscratchable? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durabis |
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| Author: | acuozzo [ 09 Jan 2013, 19:05 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
elahrairrah wrote: acuozzo wrote: I'd be happy if BDs were stored in protective shells like CEDs. I'm sick of handling "raw" discs and having to worry about them. I thought blu-rays were unscratchable? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durabis They might be, but I'm still paranoid. 
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| Author: | disclord [ 09 Jan 2013, 21:42 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
acuozzo wrote: I'd be happy if BDs were stored in protective shells like CEDs. I'm sick of handling "raw" discs and having to worry about them. Simce it stores the data so close to the surface of the disc, BD was originally only in caddies like MiniDisc, but the studios didn't want to pay for that when BD became a prerecorded movie format, so the anti-scratch coating was invented. I would prefer a caddy too. I don't need to see the physical disc. |
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| Author: | laserdisc_fan [ 09 Jan 2013, 22:19 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
I am guessing the generation below us who don't collect physical formats will find a way of scratching Blu-ray discs. They seem to have succeeded with every other format! |
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| Author: | elviscaprice [ 09 Jan 2013, 22:33 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
acuozzo wrote: I'd be happy if BDs were stored in protective shells like CEDs. I'm sick of handling "raw" discs and having to worry about them. Like a broken record here I go again. Use a ripper program to store BD to hard drive. Back up strored material to alternative hard drive. Done, no more handeling. If you want to keep BD for the pictures or as secondary library, great, or resell all material back onto the market and save space. |
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| Author: | acuozzo [ 09 Jan 2013, 22:37 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
elviscaprice wrote: acuozzo wrote: I'd be happy if BDs were stored in protective shells like CEDs. I'm sick of handling "raw" discs and having to worry about them. Like a broken record here I go again. Use a ripper program to store BD to hard drive. Back up strored material to alternative hard drive. Done, no more handeling. If you want to keep BD for the pictures or as secondary library, great, or resell all material back onto the market and save space. This is great if you have a huge RAID6 array available. Unfortunately, I don't and I've experienced more HDD failures than ruined BDs. |
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| Author: | elviscaprice [ 09 Jan 2013, 22:44 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
acuozzo wrote: elviscaprice wrote: acuozzo wrote: I'd be happy if BDs were stored in protective shells like CEDs. I'm sick of handling "raw" discs and having to worry about them. Like a broken record here I go again. Use a ripper program to store BD to hard drive. Back up strored material to alternative hard drive. Done, no more handeling. If you want to keep BD for the pictures or as secondary library, great, or resell all material back onto the market and save space. This is great if you have a huge RAID6 array available. Unfortunately, I don't and I've experienced more HDD failures than ruined BDs. I have hard drives that have lasted over 10 years, no problem. They just don't take well to any bumps or jarred movements when in operation. Get down a good system to keep them out of the way of any accidental movement and your fine for a long time. But keep the backup just in case. Always keep 2 separate sources and your home free. You don't need any RAID setup anymore with the speed and size of hard drives/motherboards today. |
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| Author: | laserdisc_fan [ 09 Jan 2013, 23:03 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
Even memory sticks with no moving parts are unsafe to store data. A colleague dropped one at work on a carpet and it never worked again. Give me a disc any day even with scratches and it will still outlast the most expensive hard drive solution you could implement. |
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| Author: | elviscaprice [ 09 Jan 2013, 23:16 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
laserdisc_fan wrote: Even memory sticks with no moving parts are unsafe to store data. A colleague dropped one at work on a carpet and it never worked again. Give me a disc any day even with scratches and it will still outlast the most expensive hard drive solution you could implement. Memory sticks are a different animal altogether utilizing flash memory. I would never use memory sticks for permanent backup solution, they are only meant for temporary transfer of material from one computer to another. I would take an internal hard drive storage over cd/dvd/br anyday. Extremely reliable and efficient. I travel all the time with HDD's and they can take alot of abuse when not powered up. Just my take from my experience. P.S. I've never lost any material in over 10 years of HDD storage. |
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| Author: | xtempo [ 09 Jan 2013, 23:57 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
disclord wrote: acuozzo wrote: I'd be happy if BDs were stored in protective shells like CEDs. I'm sick of handling "raw" discs and having to worry about them. Simce it stores the data so close to the surface of the disc, BD was originally only in caddies like MiniDisc, but the studios didn't want to pay for that when BD became a prerecorded movie format, so the anti-scratch coating was invented. I would prefer a caddy too. I don't need to see the physical disc. How do you know this? Was it originally UMD or replacing that? This makes it more interesting if it was in a caddy. I remember putting CDs in caddys to play on the Mac at school. I'm so done with MDs now. Once I transfer everything onto my htpc I'll finally stop and get rid of them. its not worth the hassle anymore. I'm only keeping Cyndi Lauper Sisters in Avalone, Twelve Deadly Cyns... and Hat Full of Stars (UK-sealed) 
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| Author: | disclord [ 10 Jan 2013, 00:18 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
I followed BD from the beginning when Sony, Philips, Pioneer and others were developing it - it was designed to be a home recorder to record US and Japanese digital broadcasts, kind of like a disc based DVHS - it wasn't a prerecorded movie format - all that came later when HD-DVD started getting serious. The first BD's were in caddies and you couldn't remove them. Then they switched to caddies you could open to play discs without caddies. The original plan was to keep the caddies for prerecorded discs but the movie studios heavily resisted that because of the extra cost for the caddy. Caddies would have been great and made BD a much better rental format. |
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| Author: | elahrairrah [ 10 Jan 2013, 05:47 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
xtempo wrote: How do you know this? Was it originally UMD or replacing that? This makes it more interesting if it was in a caddy. I remember putting CDs in caddys to play on the Mac at school. I'm so done with MDs now. Once I transfer everything onto my htpc I'll finally stop and get rid of them. its not worth the hassle anymore. I'm only keeping Cyndi Lauper Sisters in Avalone, Twelve Deadly Cyns... and Hat Full of Stars (UK-sealed) This post here shows what the original blu-ray looked like (in a caddy like an MD or UMD.) viewtopic.php?p=29205#p29205 And back then, it was a recordable format. |
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| Author: | signofzeta [ 10 Jan 2013, 05:50 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
elviscaprice wrote: laserdisc_fan wrote: P.S. I've never lost any material in over 10 years of HDD storage. Is that supposed to be impressive? The youngest LD is older than that. How many HDs from 2001 are still going? How many from 1991? If you don't scratch a BR it will almost certainly never fail in your lifetime. While nothing lasts forever, professionally stamped optical discs are the most reliable medium I can think of. They certainly fail massively less often than HDs. I've only owned a dozen or two HDs in my life and I think I've had two fail me over the years, but out of the THOUSANDS of optical discs I have the only thing that has failed on me are two or three laserdiscs that were badly made to begin with. I've never had a CD, DVD, or video game fail on me. Probably because they are ROM and have no moving parts. Also, I'm not an animal. It would take dozens of multi-TB HDs to back up my collection, hundreds of hours to do it, and something would eventually fail. A horrifically time consuming and expensive task for nothing. A DVD sitting in a box is just going to stay sitting in a box. Nothing bad is going to happen to it until some idiot scratches it. Simple solution; don't scratch it. |
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| Author: | laserdisc_fan [ 10 Jan 2013, 07:54 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
I knew a guy who had spent thousands of hours transferring his laserdisc music collection to hard drives. He was telling me how handy it was to have everything in digital form and that he'd since sold all his LDs. Anyway about 18 months later a power outage caused all of his hard drives to fail and he lost the lot. I don't think I've ever seen anyone so pissed off in my whole life. I guess he should have stuck with LDs 
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| Author: | signofzeta [ 10 Jan 2013, 08:00 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
As to the original topic: Its a shame we didn't keep going with 12" discs. A 12" DVD would have been able to hold an uncompressed MPEG2 file so high quality BR wouldn't even have been needed. |
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| Author: | elviscaprice [ 10 Jan 2013, 08:02 ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Would it be awesome if BDs were the size of LDs? |
laserdisc_fan wrote: I knew a guy who had spent thousands of hours transferring his laserdisc music collection to hard drives. He was telling me how handy it was to have everything in digital form and that he'd since sold all his LDs. Anyway about 18 months later a power outage caused all of his hard drives to fail and he lost the lot. I don't think I've ever seen anyone so pissed off in my whole life. I guess he should have stuck with LDs Yeah, and a hurricane could come through and wipe out your collection of LD's. What's the point? If you do HDD's might be wise to have the back ups in another location. Now that's playing it safe. You don't have back up, your asking for it. |
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