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Another reason why I like the Laserdisc format. Many movies were copied directly from the original 35mm film print. Raw direct digital copy.

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Love those Cigarette Burns (changeover marks) and well used (scratched/marked up) film prints. But why you ask?

Three generations of my family have worked as Projectionist in film theaters. I spent my teenage years in a projection booth. I can still remember my Grandmother waiting to see the changeover marks ... they look like Cigarette Burns on film prints that would tell her to get ready to start the next 20 minute reel of 35mm film. I remember the old prints being delivered in metal cans and how she used to prep the new movies for showing. The projectionist had to check the film for any breaks, tears or other damage. Breaks had to be spliced. A good example of the film splice can be seen on the LD "The Hustler" staring Paul Newman and Jackie Gleason. In the bus stop cafe scene the film jumps ... other than that, the print was in very good shape. Quentin Tarantino's movie Death Proof had deliberate hard film splices and simulated scratched prints to give you the "feel" of seeing the movie in an old theater. That's the feeling that some LD(s) give me ... good old fashioned "raw" 35mm prints. It's kind of nice to enjoy something that is not a perfect digital copy. Probably why I like vinyl LP(s) as well.

The link below has a description of a cue (changeover) mark. John Carpenter calls them Cigarette Burns.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cue_mark

Author:	Guest [ 26 Oct 2011, 00:32 ]
Post subject:	Cigarette Burns and Flying Dirt
Another reason why I like the Laserdisc format. Many movies were copied directly from the original 35mm film print. Raw direct digital copy. Love those Cigarette Burns (changeover marks) and well used (scratched/marked up) film prints. But why you ask? Three generations of my family have worked as Projectionist in film theaters. I spent my teenage years in a projection booth. I can still remember my Grandmother waiting to see the changeover marks ... they look like Cigarette Burns on film prints that would tell her to get ready to start the next 20 minute reel of 35mm film. I remember the old prints being delivered in metal cans and how she used to prep the new movies for showing. The projectionist had to check the film for any breaks, tears or other damage. Breaks had to be spliced. A good example of the film splice can be seen on the LD "The Hustler" staring Paul Newman and Jackie Gleason. In the bus stop cafe scene the film jumps ... other than that, the print was in very good shape. Quentin Tarantino's movie Death Proof had deliberate hard film splices and simulated scratched prints to give you the "feel" of seeing the movie in an old theater. That's the feeling that some LD(s) give me ... good old fashioned "raw" 35mm prints. It's kind of nice to enjoy something that is not a perfect digital copy. Probably why I like vinyl LP(s) as well. The link below has a description of a cue (changeover) mark. John Carpenter calls them Cigarette Burns. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cue_mark

Author:	lizardkingjr [ 26 Oct 2011, 00:37 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cigarette Burns and Flying Dirt
condorsat wrote: Another reason why I like the Laserdisc format. Many movies were copied directly from the original 35mm film print. Raw direct digital copy. Love those Cigarette Burns (changeover marks) and well used (scratched/marked up) film prints. But why you ask? Three generations of my family have worked as Projectionist in film theaters. I spent my teenage years in a projection booth. I can still remember my Grandmother waiting to see the changeover marks ... they look like Cigarette Burns on film prints that would tell her to get ready to start the next 20 minute reel of 35mm film. I remember the old prints being delivered in metal cans and how she used to prep the new movies for showing. The projectionist had to check the film for any breaks, tears or other damage. Breaks had to be spliced. A good example of the film splice can be seen on the LD "The Hustler" staring Paul Newman and Jackie Gleason. In the bus stop cafe scene the film jumps ... other than that, the print was in very good shape. Quentin Tarantino's movie Death Proof had deliberate hard film splices and simulated scratched prints to give you the "feel" of seeing the movie in an old theater. That's the feeling that some LD(s) give me ... good old fashioned "raw" 35mm prints. It's kind of nice to enjoy something that is not a perfect digital copy. Probably why I like vinyl LP(s) as well. The link below has a description of a cue (changeover) mark. John Carpenter calls them Cigarette Burns. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cue_mark LD is actually FM-modulated analog video. HTH. TLK

Author:	Guest [ 26 Oct 2011, 00:45 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cigarette Burns and Flying Dirt
LD is actually FM-modulated analog video. ... Yes ... that's me using my own language again. An LD is more like digital to me ... it doesn't age like film (which is more like analog video to me).

Author:	naiaru [ 26 Oct 2011, 03:29 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cigarette Burns and Flying Dirt
condorsat wrote: LD is actually FM-modulated analog video. ... Yes ... that's me using my own language again. An LD is more like digital to me ... it doesn't age like film (which is more like analog video to me). digital = signal of discrete values analog = continuous signal EDIT: what that means is this:

Author:	Guest [ 26 Oct 2011, 05:27 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cigarette Burns and Flying Dirt
Well, if you want to get technical about it. Technical information: from From Wikipedia The standard home video Laserdisc was 11.81 in (30 cm) in diameter and made up of two single-sided aluminum discs layered in plastic. Although appearing similar to compact discs or DVDs, Laserdiscs used analog video stored in the composite domain with analog sound and/or some form of digital audio. However, despite its analog nature, the Laserdisc at its most fundamental level was still recorded as a series of pits and lands much like CDs, DVDs, and even Blu-rays are today. So, yes it's analog ... but it reminds me of digital.

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Author:	rixrex [ 26 Oct 2011, 06:08 ]
Post subject:	Re: Cigarette Burns and Flying Dirt
All recorded media including CD/DVD digital format is in some way or another a continuous series of permutations in a physical form that can be read and transferred into electronic formats that are the same permutations in variation, yet are inscribed in an energy source that can eventually be re-transformed into light and sound that duplicates the original source, or sometimes only sound. The same is true of over-air broadcast signals that use heterodyne and superheterodyne technology to take light and sound, transform them into wavelengths of a much different frequency for broadcast, then reverse the process to create a duplicate of the original light and sound source. This is a really simple way of describing the process, but... In this way, digital media is not so unlike analog media. And it's easily understandable why an LD would make one think of a digital format. The main difference between anaog and digital is not so much in the mechanical processes, but moreso in the electronic transcribing and reproduction.

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