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je280
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Post subject: Re: The Laserdisc Screenshot Thread Posted: 18 Apr 2021, 21:36 |
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darthmaul26 wrote: It's rot status is low probability (like most titles), so I don't think it's a known rotter. I probably got unlucky, though at least it only has rot issues on side 1, sides 2 and 3 are clean. I will probably get another at some point. I have had a number of copies of these (all three the US LD releases) & they all played perfectly, quite a few years ago & no issues at all. Yes looks like a bit of bad luck & if you get another pretty sure it will be fine.... fingers crossed!!
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9954tony
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Post subject: Re: The Laserdisc Screenshot Thread Posted: 19 May 2021, 02:53 |
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jesuslovesgood wrote: Player: Panasonic LX-900 revision 1995
Capture Device: Hauppauge PVR no longer works for me. For some odd reason it doesn't get along with my rx 5500 xt 4gb. Just recently downgraded from rx 5600 xt 6gb to this card and now Hauppauge has frame drop issues all the time. Even when I had my rx 5600 xt 6g I would have frame drops every so often issues but now it's to the point where the program isn't satisfactory at all. I used Elgato non-hd to do this capture. So don't judge the capture harshly since that limits my bitrate to around 2100 or so when on Hauppauge I was able to get about 5000 or more.
these shots look a bit sharper than your Hauppauge ones. The bitrate isn't the only variable. A lot of composite devices have a low pass filter on the input. My Teranex 2D does this. If i use composite in, the signal is low pass filtered (detail is lost, the picture made softer), but if i use the component in, i retain all the detail. I'd have to see an A/B comparison to be completely sure, but to me, the Elgato seems to look better than the Hauppage.
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lonerangerface
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Post subject: Re: The Laserdisc Screenshot Thread Posted: 19 May 2021, 04:29 |
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jesuslovesgood wrote: Capture Device: Hauppauge PVR no longer works for me. For some odd reason it doesn't get along with my rx 5500 xt 4gb. Just recently downgraded from rx 5600 xt 6gb to this card and now Hauppauge has frame drop issues all the time. Even when I had my rx 5600 xt 6g I would have frame drops every so often issues but now it's to the point where the program isn't satisfactory at all. I used Elgato non-hd to do this capture. So don't judge the capture harshly since that limits my bitrate to around 2100 or so when on Hauppauge I was able to get about 5000 or more. You probably should have found an 8GB RAM card or higher.
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jesuslovesgood
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Post subject: Re: The Laserdisc Screenshot Thread Posted: 19 May 2021, 04:49 |
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9954tony wrote: these shots look a bit sharper than your Hauppauge ones. The bitrate isn't the only variable. A lot of composite devices have a low pass filter on the input. My Teranex 2D does this. If i use composite in, the signal is low pass filtered (detail is lost, the picture made softer), but if i use the component in, i retain all the detail. I'd have to see an A/B comparison to be completely sure, but to me, the Elgato seems to look better than the Hauppage. In still shots the Elgato non-hd has people fooled. In motion it has weird line issues and obvious bitrate issues. Also, this is probably one of the best laserdisc video quality wise I own in my collection. Pioneer for some odd reason put a lot of heart into this release. It even looks really good on my lx-h670 but on this older tv I have it actually has a feature to put noise reduction and for some reason my lx-h670 has weird lines in it. Not sure if that's because my lx-h670 is a middle of the range player or if I have some other issues with my lx-h670. Either way this release still looked good on my lx-h670. My lx-900 does have superior picture over it though and I love the fact that my lx-900 has a cool feature built into it that will read most warped discs as long as the disc isn't ridiculously warped. My lx-h670 cannot read warped discs at all and will have distortion in picture and audio. I do not know how many laserdisc players have the special warped correction feature built into it but the lx-900 clearly has it unless it's because my lx-900 is so new that the laser just reads the disc much better. I don't know what exactly it is but I believe it's a mechanism built into the player because I've captured with my lx-900 on other laserdiscs that have what I believe to be are slightly warped and when I pause the video in vlc media player I can see the distortion in the video but in motion it's hiding it. As if there's something built into the player to read discs better. lonerangerface wrote: jesuslovesgood wrote: Capture Device: Hauppauge PVR no longer works for me. For some odd reason it doesn't get along with my rx 5500 xt 4gb. Just recently downgraded from rx 5600 xt 6gb to this card and now Hauppauge has frame drop issues all the time. Even when I had my rx 5600 xt 6g I would have frame drops every so often issues but now it's to the point where the program isn't satisfactory at all. I used Elgato non-hd to do this capture. So don't judge the capture harshly since that limits my bitrate to around 2100 or so when on Hauppauge I was able to get about 5000 or more. You probably should have found an 8GB RAM card or higher. I downgraded from an rx 5600 xt 6gb to a rx 5500 xt 4gb because it was a trade with someone and I got some money out of about $210 so I could afford to buy these obscure expensive laserdiscs. And it shouldn't be a ram issue with the graphics card because Hauppauge pvr is a program from about 2010 or 2011 when it first came out and back then I don't even believe many graphics cards even had 2gb much less 4gb. There's absolutely no reason for either card to have issues with this old software. It's a lack of proper driver support from Hauppauge pvr in my opinion. And by proper I mean good driver support. They just don't care about their product obviously. No reason for a capture device to struggle like that when my non hd Elgato does not struggle and I am willing to be many other capture devices don't have issue either. The problem with my non-hd Elgato is that in motion the quality is subpar because of the low bitrate 2000 and something. If it had a higher bitrate it would be the perfect program for capturing.
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9954tony
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Post subject: Re: The Laserdisc Screenshot Thread Posted: 20 May 2021, 22:29 |
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jesuslovesgood wrote: he problem with my non-hd Elgato is that in motion the quality is subpar because of the low bitrate 2000 and something. If it had a higher bitrate it would be the perfect program for capturing. Got it, that makes sense. I'm in similar position. My device that does the best decoding (overall) softens the picture. I can use my other equipment and get great results (SuperNTSC) but only if the disc is "late manufacture" (which in most cases, can be had on better formats). I did recently get this OREI XD-990 which does pretty good, but then you have to have an HDMI capture card. Also, you have no control over the de interlacing, scaling, or anything really. It outputs 800x600p, 1024x768p, 1280x1024p, 1280x720p,1920x1080p.
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lonerangerface
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Post subject: Re: The Laserdisc Screenshot Thread Posted: 07 Jul 2021, 19:04 |
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Been a while, but here's another good LD/DVD comparison... And before I go on, after months of trial and error, I managed to get a new LD player, a Pioneer CLD-990. My previous captures were from a CLD-D505 before the M-holder broke. As for the captures from the CLD-990, they seem to have some brightness flickering, but the quality don't leave much to be desired. True, LD players differ in quality. Capture device: Roxio Easy VHS to DVD Plus Meet the Raisins!: The Story of the California Raisins (1988) Meet the Raisins! 1990 JP LaserDisc: The California Raisins Collection 2011 US DVD: Will Vinton's The Raisins Sold Out! (1990) The Raisins Sold Out! 1990 JP LaserDisc: The California Raisins Collection 2011 US DVD: Need I remind you that the credits look different on "Sold Out!"? Well, let me explain... The LD used the master seen on the official US VHS release of the special. It had the full "Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm Yours" music video at the beginning shown on "American Fruitstand". The end credits faded in one after another while Lick Broccoli is ranting and raving. After that, after Rudy asking if they could do a commercial, we fade to black, and the rest of the end credits scroll upwards to a jazzy tune which segues to a few bars of "I Heard It Through the Grapevine", and we fade in to the Will Vinton logo. The DVD used the TV broadcast master, which pretty much truncated the "Signed, Sealed, Delivered, I'm Yours" music video. As for the credits, all the credits were scrolling upwards during Lick's tantrum. After Rudy asks to do a commercial, we fade to black, and then fade in to the Will Vinton logo. Other than that, both masters were the same. As for "Meet the Raisins!"... The LD is missing the Will Vinton logo at the beginning, not the DVD. The DVD is missing the "Meet the Raisins" music album ad at the end, including a scrolling list of songs used in the special. EDIT: I recaptured the LDs with the Canopus ADVC-110, Adobe Premiere Pro (MTR) and WinDV (RSO). These captures have better colors. Meet the Raisins!: The Raisins Sold Out!:
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lonerangerface
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Post subject: Re: The Laserdisc Screenshot Thread Posted: 20 Sep 2021, 23:48 |
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Okay, so, after nearly two months of trial and error of finding a new PC, I also found a new capture device. Anyways this new PC is the Dell Latitude 7490 laptop, equipped with a Thunderbolt 3 port. I plugged in the Apple Thunderbolt 3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter followed by the Apple Thunderbolt 2 to Firewire adapter. The new capture device? A Canopus ADVC-110. Tested it out last night on a VHS and it worked heavenly... Anyways... Here is yet another comparison, this time it's... The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh: Winnie the Pooh, and Christmas Too (1991) Winnie the Pooh, and Christmas Too 1992 JP LaserDisc: Winnie the Pooh: Special Holiday Edition 1995 US LaserDisc: Winnie the Pooh: A Very Merry Pooh Year 2012 US Blu-Ray: The 1995 LD footage was captured last year via USB with Roxio Easy VHS to DVD on an HP Desktop from my previous player CLD-D505, the Blu-Ray footage was from a ripped .mkv file from another site, and the 1992 LD footage was captured today via Firewire with the Canopus ADVC-110 and Adobe Premiere Pro onto my new Dell Latitude 7490 from my current player CLD-990. Before that, I used Roxio on a Dell Desktop but it was all pixelated video, but good audio. Also, Rabbit's fur was recolored yellow in "A Very Merry Pooh Year" instead of the greenish hue from "New Adventures".
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