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 Post subject: Re: Elephant Condoms :(
PostPosted: 22 Dec 2020, 17:33 
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I absolutely abhor elephant johnnies. Ditch them the second I happen upon them. Horrible things.

I prefer to use Vinyl Keepers for outer sleeves and MOFI for inner sleeves. I use the same combo for vinyl and Laserdisc.

https://www.mofi.com/product-p/mfslis.htm
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 Post subject: Re: Elephant Condoms :(
PostPosted: 22 Dec 2020, 18:08 
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Thanks for bumping this version of the thread. It has one if the better versions of the same post I always make when this comes up.
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 Post subject: Re: Elephant Condoms :(
PostPosted: 22 Dec 2020, 20:38 
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I used to have the VRP Valuable Record Protector sleeves, they look just like the mofi's and they were great, but I went back to the old style.
Its best to replace really crunchy ones and then you can keep them flat rather than play with the old crunchy ones.

For US discs I prefer the paper lined ones, Japan discs I use the antistatic as the outer sleeves are smaller and don't take the paper lined ones well.
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 Post subject: Re: Elephant Condoms :(
PostPosted: 22 Dec 2020, 21:51 
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Yeah well, the problem is that the paper lined ones are just a little bit thicker than ECs I think, and the sleeve for Death Machine looks "bloated" because of it, so I think I should replace them with ECs but I gotta get some first.
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PostPosted: 23 Dec 2020, 00:01 
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rein-o wrote:
anti static LP sleeves.

Just did a search and that is what you should use.
last time I bought them I bought them from Japan, but I see China now sells them.


Well search up anti static LP sleeves and you will find them on ebay.
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PostPosted: 23 Dec 2020, 10:44 
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I always replace my EC's with the things that zeta hates so passionately.
I think I might have a hundred or so of them somewhere in storage, but
posting them to .fi will probably cost more than they are worth.
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PostPosted: 23 Dec 2020, 21:32 
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What is it I hate so passionately?
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PostPosted: 23 Dec 2020, 22:36 
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signofzeta wrote:
What is it I hate so passionately?

In this instance the paper sleeves with anti static inside.

Other instances...........
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PostPosted: 23 Dec 2020, 23:23 
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Just because I disagree with someone about paper sleeves doesn’t mean I have a “flaming hatred” for anything. I think some people are just babies who, when faced with any opinion other than their own, project their own issues onto others.

As a great fan of records and LDs I have many many many hundreds if not thousands of paper sleeves with poly inside and I feel no hatred, flaming or otherwise, towards them. Someone is making s**t up.

Cramming stuff that doesn’t fit into other things that will be damaged by them is stupid. I’m not burning crosses in anyone’s lawn about it though. Librarians want you to turn pages from the top of instead of the bottom to avoid ripping the page. If you never adopt this common sense habit they aren’t going to take away your library card and call the Obedience Enforcement Brigade, they’re just going to think you’re dumb. If you can’t handle people thinking you’re dumb then I suggest withdrawing from society completely where nobody can ever question your outlook or LD collecting habits.


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 Post subject: Re: Elephant Condoms :(
PostPosted: 24 Dec 2020, 00:38 
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signofzeta wrote:
Librarians want you to turn pages from the top of instead of the bottom to avoid ripping the page.


I never knew that, i think the current book i'm reading i did this yesterday.
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PostPosted: 24 Dec 2020, 00:48 
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The paper ones are fine for American LD sleeves since they use thinner cardboard stock. ECs are better for Japanese sleeves with thicker cardboard stock.
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PostPosted: 24 Dec 2020, 03:03 
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rein-o wrote:
signofzeta wrote:
Librarians want you to turn pages from the top of instead of the bottom to avoid ripping the page.


I never knew that, i think the current book i'm reading i did this yesterday.


YOU MORON!!! :)

In all honesty, I have developed a sort of priority system for books. If it’s a silver age comic or a two foot wide photo book, yes, I treat it like a librarian but if it’s a paperback or something worthless that nobody else will likely ever read I allow myself to rough it up. Life is more fun when you just let that 46 year old copy of a 134 year old book get its cover worn in. If the pages fall out of it...big deal, there’s 192 other printings of it for people to read.
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 Post subject: Re: Elephant Condoms :(
PostPosted: 24 Dec 2020, 21:46 
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Good evening Everyone.

Whenever I receive I nearly always change the inner Elephant condom and replace this with a quality Vinyl LP inner anti static.

Yes sometimes due to the Laserdisc Cover not quite being able to accommodate these alternatives, I will trim the corners off the inner sleeves, so as not to crease the inner corners.

The only inner Sleeves that I mostly leave on are many of the MGM Titles, as most of these come with the high quality inner sleeves.

Also I always 100% place all of my Laserdiscs into an outer protective clear resealable just as a matter of protecting my investment.


Kindest Regards to all

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 Post subject: Re: Elephant Condoms :(
PostPosted: 17 Feb 2021, 22:38 
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I replaced all the Japanese round bottom sleeves with the Original Master Record Inner Sleeves from Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs.
They are expensive ($20.00 for a Pack of 50) compared to the standard record sleeves, but they are worth every penny!
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kingpin wrote:
I replaced all the Japanese round bottom sleeves with the Original Master Record Inner Sleeves from Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs.
They are expensive ($20.00 for a Pack of 50) compared to the standard record sleeves, but they are worth every penny!


Yes they are great & fit perfectly inside the Japanese covers that appear to be a tad smaller than the US & UK covers.

They are quite pricey though but occasionally they can pop up on ebay fairly cheaply.

Sometimes special LDs deserve the special sleeves.

Cheers :thumbup: .
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PostPosted: 18 Feb 2021, 15:40 
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kingpin wrote:
I replaced all the Japanese round bottom sleeves with the Original Master Record Inner Sleeves from Mobile Fidelity Sound Labs.
They are expensive ($20.00 for a Pack of 50) compared to the standard record sleeves, but they are worth every penny!



i've been meaning to do just that for years now, but just haven't gotten round to it,
as there ALWAYS seems something more important/pressing to spend my limited disposable funds upon.

i really ought to find a way to make a priority of it...
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I noticed some of those elephant style inner sleeves that have the printed text about how to handle the laserdisc and symbols for damaged LDs that the print bleeds thru onto the actual laserdisc! You can wipe it off….

But it got me thinking… the Mobile Fidelity anti static inner sleeves also have print on them.

Hope they don’t bleed over time like those print jobs that come with some of the LDs.

Any thoughts?
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 Post subject: Re: Elephant Condoms :(
PostPosted: 09 Aug 2021, 14:02 
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Meaningless. The laser blasts right through it anyway. You guys can’t see the forest for the trees man…

EDIT: Since there are a dozen threads on this issue I guess I need to spam them all with the video I made about it.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3O-vHpHRpM&t=195[/youtube]

I'd embed it but I simply cannot be taught how to do that, it seems. Sorry. The most frustrating thing is that somehow I get it right about 1/8 of the time...long version, use the tags, take out the "s", leave the "s" I don't f-ing know. Some kind of sticky sure would help...its amazing that I was able to shoot and edit the video itself with titles and on-set sound but I'm too frikkn stupid to embed it here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3O-vHpHRpM&t=195
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 Post subject: Re: Elephant Condoms :(
PostPosted: 09 Aug 2021, 14:19 
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jackbluray wrote:
I noticed some of those elephant style inner sleeves that have the printed text about how to handle the laserdisc and symbols for damaged LDs that the print bleeds thru onto the actual laserdisc! You can wipe it off….

But it got me thinking… the Mobile Fidelity anti static inner sleeves also have print on them.

Hope they don’t bleed over time like those print jobs that come with some of the LDs.

Any thoughts?


Don't worry.

I always thought it was more like dust?

I had a set of Discovision discs I picked up one, they had plastic inner sleeves that were actually crumbling in my hands as I pulled
the discs out. Just wiped the discs down and put new ones on, no issues since and discs were fine.
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 Post subject: Re: Elephant Condoms :(
PostPosted: 09 Aug 2021, 14:42 
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It’s not ink. The ink won’t go through the plastic. What I’ve see though is that since the plastic is somewhat embossed from the printing process when it leaves “ghosts of inner bag” on the disc, usually just wrinkles, it may copy the print. It absolutely does NOT affect play though.
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