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elahrairrah
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Post subject: Re: WHY should we even like laserdisc? Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 18:24 |
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When it was DVD vs LD, my sticking point was the fact that there wasn't enough of an upgrade in quality of DVD (and in some aspects, no upgrade in quality!) over LD to make me say I don't need LD anymore.
When it comes to Blu-ray, sure it's sharper than you could ever imagine, but when they throw up there in 60Hz or 120Hz, it looks like a video game rather than a movie. Sure, we don't HAVE to watch it like that (just set your player how you like) but for some reason, that's how the format is demoed everywhere you go. So that's obviously a selling point.
I'd rather it just look like a film.
I'm getting ont he Blu-ray wagon sure enough (how else am I going to get movies now that they are trying to kill off DVD), but after collecting this big ol' 12" discs for about 17 years now, I still don't find good enough reason to stop!
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Post subject: Re: WHY should we even like laserdisc? Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 18:41 |
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Everyone probably has their own reasons for collecting LD(s) but here is mine:
1. Collecting is a hobby. I enjoy the hunt ... it's fun to build a collection. 2. LD packaging was elaborate ... exuberant ... over the top. 3. I can buy today what was unaffordable back when LD(s) were in print. 4. I'm fascinated with obsolete technology. Also collect vinyl LP(s). 5. Every media format produces it's own "experience" IMHO. 6. It's interesting to own a movie on several different formats. 7. Well mastered LD(s) provide a "35mm theatrical sound". Less processed to my ears. 8. Many LD(s) appear to be copied directly from 35mm prints ... again less processed and more like "film". 9. Some LD(s) were never released on DVD or BR. 10. Depending on what issue you collect ... LD(s) can be quite reasonable. 11. It still amazes me how many movies were released on the format. Watch TCM channel on any given night and look up the movie on LDDB and it's probably been issued before.
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Post subject: Re: WHY should we even like laserdisc? Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 18:54 |
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I feel like BD makes it look more like film if they do not use DNR or use a moderate amount. One big reason to stick with LD is because certain stuff, cuts, music, commentary are only on LD.
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publius
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Post subject: Re: WHY should we even like laserdisc? Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 19:13 |
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Well, like elahrairrah, I found DVD rather pointless, doubly so because it was often quite difficult & expensive to obtain in that format what I already had or could get on LD, & often there was actually a quality hit. With Blu-Ray, I have a couple (Wings of Honneamise & Paprika) & mean to buy more, but most of what's in my LD library either hasn't yet been or never will be released on that format.
Beyond that, LaserDisc is a fascinating technical achievement, which I think is worth keeping around for that reason alone. I'm terribly fond of the packaging of some of my discs. It does give me a thrill to obtain for a couple of bucks something that originally sold for Y7800. And, really, I just like it — sheer personal preference.
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kris
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Post subject: Re: WHY should we even like laserdisc? Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 20:33 |
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I like the fact that I don't have to worry about hdmi handshakes , copy protection , output resolutions , audio formats or any other firmwire related things Let's be honnest... do you enjoy watching the commercial for a new Ipad before even getting a glimps of the movie itself? Just plug in the composite or S-video socket and you are good to go! To make things a bit high tech an rf demodulator or CC decoder was all that made the difference. Any player could play a simple LD movie without Image freezing or whatever the issue these days... Warning : Not all features on this BR disc may be available with current firmwire on your player . Please visit http://www.blablabla.com for your vieuwing experience Oh, I do miss the analoge age ! Don't get me wrong I love BluRay and even HDDVD's and they sure look and sound splendid but did things get user friendly?? Main reason why I love laserdiscs: they are something else... They look cool on the shelf They sound great They are "rare" amongst the average movie lover (these days everyone is a movie "collector") with prices dropping again and again The artwork The boxsets Love to hear from others....
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Post subject: Re: WHY should we even like laserdisc? Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 21:35 |
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mlcsmith wrote: Most of the reasons I collect LDs has already been stated, but there's one I'm not too proud to admit.
I love collecting LaserDiscs because no one else has it around me and can't borrow my discs. I am so particular about caring for my stuff and I hate lending my favorite movies to friends because they just don't care about them. They come back with big finger prints all over them and even some scratches on occasions. If I'm now talking about a great film I watched the other night I can then say, 'sorry, it's a LaserDisc. Do you have a LaserDisc player?' and I don't feel like a totally selfish douch bag. There was a guy on YouTube who posted a series of video's about LaserDiscs (back in 2008) .... one of the reasons he gave for liking the format was exactly what you stated. Video below ... fast forward to about the 5 minute mark ... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6tONRLJ ... re=related
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jjhunsecker
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Post subject: Re: WHY should we even like laserdisc? Posted: 08 Nov 2011, 23:18 |
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remington wrote: ...What I don't hear talked about much is why (besides commentary or extended reasons) we would chose to view a laserdisc instead of a standard or blu ray disc... Again, besides the commentary and extended stuff what else do you like and is it better than the current technology? Well, those are the main reasons I've kept my LD player and discs -- for the films not available on DVD or BD, for extras and commentaries, or for original versions of movies that have been altered for their DVD and BD counterparts. Other than those main reasons I do feel a nostalgia for LDs that I don't feel for VHS or DVD. It's probably because Laserdisc was the first high end home video format I owned, and there was a specialness about it because it catered to collectors and film buffs. I enjoyed shopping for LDs in the '90s, too. Only certain shops carried them, while DVDs are available in supermarkets. I know it sounds elitist, but how special can the format seem when you can pick it up with your butter and eggs? I also liked the packaging (the boxsets, gatefolds, etc.) and cover art to most LDs. There seemed to be more care put into them than for DVDs and Blu-rays (which have some of the laziest and dullest cover art). The early cardboard packaging for DVDs seemed flimsy, too. It's the same feeling I get towards LPs, and their cover art and packaging, compared with CDs.
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Post subject: Re: WHY should we even like laserdisc? Posted: 09 Nov 2011, 00:20 |
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jjhunsecker wrote: Other than those main reasons I do feel a nostalgia for LDs that I don't feel for VHS or DVD. It's probably because Laserdisc was the first high end home video format I owned, and there was a specialness about it because it catered to collectors and film buffs. I enjoyed shopping for LDs in the '90s, too. Only certain shops carried them, while DVDs are available in supermarkets. I know it sounds elitist, but how special can the format seem when you can pick it up with your butter and eggs?
Understand exactly what you are saying. LD was a format that seemed to be created for film buffs ... the movie or "art" was everything ... real film fans were willing to pay more. Never experienced that myself ... when LD(s) were being sold ... I was in a highly mobile career (not staying in one place very long) and didn't have the time or space to devote to the hobby. I did enjoy renting LaserDiscs back then though. Just couldn't imagine hauling LD(s) around with me at that period in my life. Now is my make up time.
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firehorse_44
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Post subject: Re: WHY should we even like laserdisc? Posted: 09 Nov 2011, 06:25 |
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Thanks to all for the reasoning and candor. I must add that the available title selection is still another valid reason to acquire these out dated platters. Being a Kaiju fan since I was a kid, it was a dream come true finding so many monster films on this format. Numerous LaserDisc titles offered for Gamera,Godzilla,and the Harryhausen genre was just overwhelming. Gravitating to Japanese LaserDiscs just helped fan the fire for this jones. I have watched so many movies with Japanese Dialogue that I am beginning to understand the language just by association !!! As far as reading the Calligraphy, forget it.... Subtitles don't bother me though, they being a deal breaker for some due mainly to distraction.
Now acknowledging the drawbacks inherent to collecting this format, despite these obvious physical realities, we still collect and endure. I don't mind explaining to friends and family that I don't need a Blockbuster video card. The concept for the RedBox rental outlet and netflix are wonderful, but I will pass for now......
Frankly ,although their are many exceptions, movies in the last ten years have just gone down hill. Maybe I am closed minded, have no problem accepting that, but the golden age of motion picture is past in my opinion. And LaserDisc has captured the essential prime of motion picture history from the 20's through the turn of the new century. How many titles were lost in the grey area of marketability and never to be released on DVD,HD-DVD or even the Blu-Ray format. Kind of makes me feel like an archivist, preserving the past like Irish monks all through the dark ages! A bit dramatic but how else can I justify sitting on over 3500 + titles. And still collecting more as time goes on. Thank the Sky Gods I sell on the LDDB to make room for more !!!
So why should we even like laserdiscs ? Perhaps logically we should not..... Thankfully we are not Vulcans....
Once again grateful to all for this thread....
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hippiedalek
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Post subject: Re: WHY should we even like laserdisc? Posted: 09 Nov 2011, 10:59 |
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firehorse_44 wrote: So why should we even like laserdiscs ? Perhaps logically we should not..... I think it's fair to say that when it comes to collecting logic is very seldom a deciding factor.
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