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Post subject: Re: The truth about laser rot Posted: 23 Oct 2011, 02:18 |
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My copy of "In The Line of Fire" has some minor rot on side 2 only, Side 1 and 3 are fine, will the rot eventually spread to side 1?
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tkmedia
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Post subject: Re: The truth about laser rot Posted: 26 Nov 2011, 07:42 |
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I have not spun a LD in ages. I think I recall a few of my LD players (X0?, X9?, X1?) have a majority of the dropouts display in black? I recall finding it less distracting than the majority of the one that play back in white colour. lightly rotted disc will look more like a bad print than a "snow storm". black opening and ending credits look better as well, as the specks are black.
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hippiedalek
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Post subject: Re: The truth about laser rot Posted: 21 Mar 2012, 11:30 |
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dwalterm wrote: Some people claim DVDs don't have laser rot...... I found an early CD-R that I bought that was so badly rotted it was even visable (I've posted the picture many times before, you've probably already seen it). All optical disc formats that involve bonding can suffer from laser rot, I've even seen reports of Blue Ray and HD-DVD with laser rot so it still happens but it's very rare now.
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nextwednesday
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Post subject: Re: The truth about laser rot Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 11:11 |
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Greetings all
In my collection I have something like 60 LD titles manufactured at Philips DuPont Optical (PDO) in Blackburn. With the exception of the odd gold coloured one, EVERY SINGLE ONE is badly visibly bronzed. On playing, this usually results in a degree of speckling that I would describe as mild and not distracting. Certainly less distracting than the heavy speckling that comes and goes with other rotted discs that often look perfect visually.
Nevertheless, it's a bad problem and eventually results in a non-playable discs, although I've had quite a few examples that friends say are unplayable that play acceptably on my D925.
PDO's problems were well-publicised in the case of CDs. As I recall, the companies affected were Chandos, Hyperion in the main, although many other smaller houses were affected too. Those CDs were truly terrible and CD players couldn’t handle them at all, just giving up and stopping. (I discovered years later that a CD drive in a pc could often interpret them and store the music as mp3 just fine, although it took about five times as long as that rip would normally take.)
Anyway, PDO’s problems did eventually result in a replacement programme. One phoned up the help number and quoted the disc number and the very nice lady looked up whether they had a replacement available. They usually did and I wound up getting something like 10 CDs replaced this way. This was all before I started into LDs and when I tried the number and email address a few years later with LDs in mind, the programme appeared to have been wound up. I wonder whether they ever replaced any one’s rotten LDs…
Best regards and See you NextWednesday.
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laserdisc_fan
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Post subject: Re: The truth about laser rot Posted: 22 Mar 2012, 20:25 |
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nextwednesday wrote: PDO’s problems did eventually result in a replacement programme. One phoned up the help number and quoted the disc number and the very nice lady looked up whether they had a replacement available. They usually did and I wound up getting something like 10 CDs replaced this way.
I also sent back about 100 PDO CDs to get replaced in the late 90's that had all started to bronze over. Warner Brothers had a similiar scheme and I got a few of them replaced as well - it was a slightly different problem though with the lacquer starting to crack around the edges where they were not sealed properly.
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elahrairrah
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Post subject: Re: The truth about laser rot Posted: 07 May 2012, 20:52 |
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Looks similar to this . . . Is This Laser Rot?Can't say for sure, but it isn't affecting the disc that I have with the similar look.
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starlaser
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Post subject: Re: The truth about laser rot Posted: 08 May 2012, 14:55 |
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Checking some junk titles and came across this bad boy...never seen this before happen to a disc. Looks almost if like a person spray painted it in a cream colored paint but it's under the surface.
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laserbite34
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Post subject: Re: The truth about laser rot Posted: 21 Jun 2012, 19:20 |
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The first one I encountered was Dante’s Peak THX AC-3 version having gone though two of the same with replacement not looking anywhere near as bad with first one I brought around 1998. The copy I have now as gotten worst, so worse its affecting the soundtrack with bit noise. I had little experience with laser-rot in the early days, and now knowing what it is? Its disappointing to see it. My CAV STAR WARS box-set seems clear from it plus it has the missing scene from Empire intact. ALIEN CAV has a little minor traces of it on side 4 near to the end of the disc. Starship Troopers looks good transfer too bad its got colourful sparkle extras on one of the sides I think its the CAV side? Men In (Rot) Black has it on side 3 CAV not as bad as Dante’s Peak that is the king of laser-rot in my collection it stands out! The Professional, that’s not too bad besides I don’t like the picture transfer it looks like it was transferred though a pair of stockings. The Fugitive, I can’t comment on that I sold the laserdisc years ago when I brought the DVD as far as I can recall it looked fine, the soundtrack was also fine very LOUD no noise on analogue or digital PCM that I can grumble about. Demolition Man, I only played the laserdisc a few days ago and its not too bad on the laser-rot side its still watchable and nope I’m not selling it, the picture shows more scope than then DVD does plus it has “Head’s Up” where the DVD has it cut from the R2 release? Blade Runner: Special Edition CAV, not too bad on my copy nowhere near as worse as Dante’s Peak!!! I’ll have to go though all the laserdisc again, at lightening speeds just put it in skip though the chapters looking from start to end of each side to check for any signs of “the Laser-rot” coming to a cinema this July. Oh, the early Pal STAR WARS I have has tiny little tiny twitchy sparkles for a Laserdisc that was pressed in the early 80's not too bad.
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Post subject: Re: The truth about laser rot Posted: 14 Oct 2021, 10:58 |
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In my opinion, most Discovision titles have very bad laser rot. After the Discovision era, i can rarely find any laserdisc opening with laser rot.
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rein-o
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Post subject: Re: The truth about laser rot Posted: 14 Oct 2021, 14:49 |
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wapro wrote: In my opinion, most Discovision titles have very bad laser rot. After the Discovision era, i can rarely find any laserdisc opening with laser rot. I've got a few discs that are Disney and are perfect, want to buy them. Took me a few copies to find a perfect one. They are out there and not all are rotted.
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