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 Post subject: Re: Laserdiscs Not Colored Silver
PostPosted: 17 Oct 2012, 01:55 
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white would be the dead side of a single sided disc.
i've heard about green, but i can't remember the site that had it or the title.

someone posted some pictures of blue discs, i think they were PAL?
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 Post subject: Re: Laserdiscs Not Colored Silver
PostPosted: 17 Oct 2012, 03:50 
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Giant Monster Gamera (1965) [SFL0004]
...has a gold/yellow color.
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 Post subject: Re: Laserdiscs Not Colored Silver
PostPosted: 18 Oct 2012, 12:04 
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nems wrote:
Giant Monster Gamera (1965) [SFL0004]
...has a gold/yellow color.


I own Giant Monster Gamera, but obviously never watched it. It is indeed Gold. Thank you Nems.
I should of been more specific as this merged thread has lots of discs with colored non-playable sides. I am only interested in US discs that have a colored playable side. Gathering info from this thread here is what I came up with:
Evil Dead 2 (Red)
The Evil Dead: Special Collector's Edition (Gold)
The Hitch-Hiker (Roan; Gold)
The Trial (Roan, Gold)
Fantastic Planet (Roan; Gold)
Document of the Dead
Dario Argento's World of Horror (Gold)
Giant Monster Gamera (Gold)

So 8 US titles with colored discs and a playable surface. Did I miss any?
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 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 05 Dec 2012, 04:58 
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i just picked up Evil Dead 2: Dead By Dawn: Special Edition (1987) [EE3845]
and have no problem playing it, i have to check out my second player upstairs.
but what players would have problems playing the red disc?
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 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 05 Dec 2012, 10:58 
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I think it won't play on LD players with red lasers.
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 05 Dec 2012, 16:51 
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do we know for sure? and if so what would the red matter on red plastic, i always thought the laser was color blind
no pun intented, but it is something that only tells the distance and depth not color.
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 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 05 Dec 2012, 17:26 
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I've never heard any reports of anyone having an issue with red laserdiscs and looking at the label included with Evil Dead 2: Dead By Dawn: Special Edition (1987) [EE3845] it sounds like they hadn't either and were just covering their backs in case of any possible problem:
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As an aside I know that regular red laser barcode scanners can't read red barcodes as they can't tell what is a space and what is a bar, could Elite have been worried about a similar problem with a laserdisc?
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 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 05 Dec 2012, 17:59 
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Wonder how gas tube lasers deal with colored discs if red lasers have issues with them?
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 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 05 Dec 2012, 18:06 
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elahrairrah wrote:
Wonder how gas tube lasers deal with colored discs if red lasers have issues with them?

Anyone own both a red laser player and a red disc and can give us first hand info?
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 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 05 Dec 2012, 21:51 
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Since it's the aluminum layer, not the plastic, that the laser reads, & red plastic is transparent to red light by definition, a red laser should not be affected at all. The only possibility would be if the dye in the plastic diffuses the light somehow, which seems unlikely.
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 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 06 Dec 2012, 22:39 
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Thanks, I understand what you're saying after watching this video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgeLs2SO7fY&feature=player_embedded#at=118

Maybe as was said earlier they were just covering themselves.
  
 
 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 07 Dec 2012, 06:01 
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All initial titles by Columbia-TriStar in Belgium and the netherlands were gold coloured:

Robocop
Karate Kid II
My Stepmother is an Alien
Red Heat
Hannah and Her Sisters
Troetelbeertjes 2
La Bamba
Look who's Talking
Body Double

From the release of 'Silence of The lambs' and 'Flatliners" onwards they used silver platters...

I also believe early cascar discs were gold colored:

Koko Flanel
Big Man on Campus
National Geographic discs
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 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 13 Dec 2012, 20:20 
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publius wrote:
Since it's the aluminum layer, not the plastic, that the laser reads, & red plastic is transparent to red light by definition, a red laser should not be affected at all. The only possibility would be if the dye in the plastic diffuses the light somehow, which seems unlikely.


This sticker was a warning. It is very real. Gas Tube players WILL NOT play this disc. The red plastic cancels out enough of the beam that the player doesn't even detect that a disc is loaded. Red lasers from a diode seem to work, but the old gas tube players (PR-7820, LD-660, LD-1100, PR-8210, VC-8010, VP-7200, LD-1000, etc.) just don't work.
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 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 13 Dec 2012, 21:32 
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 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 14 Dec 2012, 10:03 
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Informative as always, blam1. Thanks again!
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 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 14 Dec 2012, 17:37 
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blam1 wrote:
publius wrote:
Since it's the aluminum layer, not the plastic, that the laser reads, & red plastic is transparent to red light by definition, a red laser should not be affected at all. The only possibility would be if the dye in the plastic diffuses the light somehow, which seems unlikely.


This sticker was a warning. It is very real. Gas Tube players WILL NOT play this disc. The red plastic cancels out enough of the beam that the player doesn't even detect that a disc is loaded. Red lasers from a diode seem to work, but the old gas tube players (PR-7820, LD-660, LD-1100, PR-8210, VC-8010, VP-7200, LD-1000, etc.) just don't work.


I totally forgot about that problem - I remember many newsgroup postings about it now though. The shark tooth in the Jaws CAV box set got more posts taking about it though - Blam knows what I mean (tee-hee-hee).
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 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 15 May 2020, 03:03 
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Reviving an old thread. I recently acquired "Test Pressing" discs from the estate sale of David Goldstein an executive of Fox Home Video. It included several one sided TechniDisc pressings with a red recorded side. They are correctly mint marked including the movie name so not just made from blank recordable discs. All the red ones are from the Charlie Chaplin Legacy of Laughs series. The labels are very generic white, even at least one had to have the side # hand written. Regular "wrong side" silver B sides.
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 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 15 May 2020, 04:42 
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If they are single-sided discs, with red on one side and silver on the other, then they are RLV check discs. RLVs can have mint marks like replicated discs.

Check discs were made before the cleanroom glass mastering stage in an effort to prevent costly errors with audio, video or LaserVision flag encoding.
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 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 15 May 2020, 07:47 
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I have an ex-rental copy of Spartacus (PILR-1198) from Japan that was also gold (excuse the various stuff in the reflections), I suspect some other PILR rental discs were like this, but this is the only one I've come across so far.
(edit: whoops, forgot the links)
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b181/ ... 356789.jpg
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b181/ ... 993242.jpg

Was watching the "2001 Nights" OVA the other night, and it had this vertical stripe pattern on its blank side instead of a generic CAV side with a warning. Looked kinda cool, but didn't bother to take a picture (might have some other discs like this, but can't remember for sure).


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 Post subject: Re: Coloured Laserdiscs
PostPosted: 15 May 2020, 09:13 
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jd213 wrote:
I have an ex-rental copy of Spartacus (PILR-1198) from Japan that was also gold.


Yes they do, it was to make sure shops would not rent retail copies.

RL-*, RWL-*, ASLR-*, PILR-* rentals are all yellow plastic, making them look gold with the reflective aluminum layer.

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