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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
PostPosted: 21 Sep 2016, 03:07 
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Green Legend Ran Box Set (1992) [PILA-1130A]

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-Blind buy.
-One of the few anime I have on LD.
-First LD purchase since long time.
-It was sealed.
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Green Legend Ran Box Set (1992) [PILA-1130A]

Several facts:

-Blind buy.
-One of the few anime I have on LD.
-First LD purchase since long time.
-It was sealed.


That's a nice one to bag & sealed to boot so you will have all the "extra" inserts enclosed including the oft missing t-shirt :thumbup: .
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Got a few more today:
Hardware (1990) (Uncut) [NALA-10028]
Moontrap (1989) (Uncut) [SWLD-3033]
Barbarella: Queen of the Galaxy (1968) [PILF-1690]
Hellbound (1994) [PILF-7302]
Bodyguard, The (1992) [NJWL-12591]
Young Indiana Jones Chronicles (1992) (Uncut) [PCLP-00418]
V2 (1985) [NJL-11576]

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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
PostPosted: 21 Sep 2016, 18:59 
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My latest (got it few weeks ago actually ^^') buy is Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon SuperS Gaiden: Ami-chan no Hatsukoi.


is this a short? is there also any bonus material on it?
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
PostPosted: 21 Sep 2016, 19:00 
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Not quite completely new (Not that any of these are...) but I've amassed a bunch of titles since last posting, and even got something that's not Japanese.
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nice! Do you have the Compleat Al?
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
PostPosted: 21 Sep 2016, 23:18 
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Moontrap
Hardware
Young indie

Are on my short list but Kevin can't seem to find me clean copies or forgets me when he does :)

Excellent lot. I have the V2 and Hellbound (excellent)discs.

I bought the hardware and moontrap on bluray too but the ld covers man...
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Moontrap
Hardware
Young indie

Are on my short list but Kevin can't seem to find me clean copies or forgets me when he does :)

Excellent lot. I have the V2 and Hellbound (excellent)discs.

I bought the hardware and moontrap on bluray too but the ld covers man...

Guess he forgot you this time as well, then. This stuff came from him. :oops:

Looking forward to checking these out nevertheless. Have heard that the Moontrap blu-ray supposedly have poor picture quality, making the LD not so bad in comparison? Already have the movie on VHS, but I suspect it is cut.
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
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I figured!! It's ok. I haven' t been in touch with him all that much past two months. I am sure he will find me those later on.

Hardware looks mint on BD. Moontrap BD is sourced from VHS I believe. It looks better than VHS somehow.
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...Moontrap BD is sourced from VHS I believe. It looks better than VHS somehow.

CSI image enhancement? :lol:
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
PostPosted: 23 Sep 2016, 08:32 
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Song of the South (1946) [PILF-1096]
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There is a slight difference and DB on the backside of obi.
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
PostPosted: 23 Sep 2016, 12:04 
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Abyss, The: Special Edition (1989) (Uncut)
Fox Video
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Connery Collection #1: Dr. No/From Russia with Love/Goldfinger
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Eastwood Trio: Unforgiven/Josey Wales/Pale Rider
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Thunderball: Deluxe Collector's Edition (1965)
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
PostPosted: 23 Sep 2016, 20:10 
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substance wrote:
I figured!! It's ok. I haven' t been in touch with him all that much past two months. I am sure he will find me those later on.

Hardware looks mint on BD. Moontrap BD is sourced from VHS I believe. It looks better than VHS somehow.


I'm not sure about the American blu-ray of "Moontrap", but the German release (which came first) was sourced from a German 35 mm theatrical release print. It thus features true HD (altough too much DNR was employed on it).
It certainly isn't perfect and it could have been better, but it *is* the best-looking home video release I've ever seen for the film, and the best-looking one by far.

I love laserdisc very much and the Japanese LD is a wonderful collector's item to have (in fact, the English soundtrack featured on the German blu-ray was taken off my very own copy of the Japan LD), but it features an average transfer (very similar in picture quality to the US laserdisc) and it's far from being on par with the blu-ray. LD does have one big advantage in that it has an open matte picture, whereas the blu-ray is masked at 1.85:1. There *are* some scenes in the film where this will annoy those familiar with the open matte version. :lol:
And yes, the Japanese version is longer than the US cut of the film (several scenes), but don't expect more blood or gore...

From what I know, the US blu-ray release should be from the same HD master, but I haven't seen it...
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
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I figured!! It's ok. I haven' t been in touch with him all that much past two months. I am sure he will find me those later on.

Hardware looks mint on BD. Moontrap BD is sourced from VHS I believe. It looks better than VHS somehow.


I'm not sure about the American blu-ray of "Moontrap", but the German release (which came first) was sourced from a German 35 mm theatrical release print. It thus features true HD (altough too much DNR was employed on it).
It certainly isn't perfect and it could have been better, but it *is* the best-looking home video release I've ever seen for the film, and the best-looking one by far.

I love laserdisc very much and the Japanese LD is a wonderful collector's item to have (in fact, the English soundtrack featured on the German blu-ray was taken off my very own copy of the Japan LD), but it features an average transfer (very similar in picture quality to the US laserdisc) and it's far from being on par with the blu-ray. LD does have one big advantage in that it has an open matte picture, whereas the blu-ray is masked at 1.85:1. There *are* some scenes in the film where this will annoy those familiar with the open matte version. :lol:
And yes, the Japanese version is longer than the US cut of the film (several scenes), but don't expect more blood or gore...

From what I know, the US blu-ray release should be from the same HD master, but I haven't seen it...


So in other words it's another bluray that sucks? Um DNR? Is that acceptable in any way? I would rather have a nice LD image of a movie like this any day.
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
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godzilla-2000 wrote:
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I figured!! It's ok. I haven' t been in touch with him all that much past two months. I am sure he will find me those later on.

Hardware looks mint on BD. Moontrap BD is sourced from VHS I believe. It looks better than VHS somehow.


I'm not sure about the American blu-ray of "Moontrap", but the German release (which came first) was sourced from a German 35 mm theatrical release print. It thus features true HD (altough too much DNR was employed on it).
It certainly isn't perfect and it could have been better, but it *is* the best-looking home video release I've ever seen for the film, and the best-looking one by far.

I love laserdisc very much and the Japanese LD is a wonderful collector's item to have (in fact, the English soundtrack featured on the German blu-ray was taken off my very own copy of the Japan LD), but it features an average transfer (very similar in picture quality to the US laserdisc) and it's far from being on par with the blu-ray. LD does have one big advantage in that it has an open matte picture, whereas the blu-ray is masked at 1.85:1. There *are* some scenes in the film where this will annoy those familiar with the open matte version. :lol:
And yes, the Japanese version is longer than the US cut of the film (several scenes), but don't expect more blood or gore...

From what I know, the US blu-ray release should be from the same HD master, but I haven't seen it...


So in other words it's another bluray that sucks? Um DNR? Is that acceptable in any way? I would rather have a nice LD image of a movie like this any day.


The specs are there for bluray its the studio abuse of these films to get us milked dry and I'm sick and tired of it. :x
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
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It's the mass market dumbing down of everything. LD was an elite format in it's day for enthusiasts and the well off, studios mostly put out serious releases that were worthy. Now you can get BDs for next to nothing and every idiot thinks it's automatically going to the be the best option COZ IT'S BLURAY. Then people with knowledge and enthusiasm for movies, LDs original target market, get frustrated..
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It's the mass market dumbing down of everything. LD was an elite format in it's day for enthusiasts and the well off, studios mostly put out serious releases that were worthy. Now you can get BDs for next to nothing and every idiot thinks it's automatically going to the be the best option COZ IT'S BLURAY. Then people with knowledge and enthusiasm for movies, LDs original target market, get frustrated..

LD was the best format of its day once upon a time, and even years after DVD came out it was still better in terms of audio, but it's not anymore and thats ok because technology is always getting better and thats how it should be. if you don't subscribe to Blu-Ray being superior when a transfer is treated with care than you are just letting your own nostalgia and ignorance get the better of what are hard cold facts.
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nice! Do you have the Compleat Al?

I do not, I was more interested in having the music videos more than anything else. (I'm not sure anyone knows this, but the majority of those music videos were produced in 60fps. Really odd in the best way after only ever seeing them on youtube.)
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It's the mass market dumbing down of everything. LD was an elite format in it's day for enthusiasts and the well off, studios mostly put out serious releases that were worthy. Now you can get BDs for next to nothing and every idiot thinks it's automatically going to the be the best option COZ IT'S BLURAY. Then people with knowledge and enthusiasm for movies, LDs original target market, get frustrated..

LD was the best format of its day once upon a time, and even years after DVD came out it was still better in terms of audio, but it's not anymore and thats ok because technology is always getting better and thats how it should be. if you don't subscribe to Blu-Ray being superior when a transfer is treated with care than you are just letting your own nostalgia and ignorance get the better of what are hard cold facts.


You're missing my point. Studios treated the LD format with respect and put out considered, well mastered releases on the whole, it was a serious format treated seriously in an era where consumers weren't idiots.

BD exists in an era where quality isn't valued. It's all about volume and studios blag out releases without properly mastering or respecting the films on the whole.

And the worst part is the mass market falls for it and laps it up. The studios aren't idiots, they've just discovered people are.

Why spend the money on mastering a proper release if 99% of people who buy it aren't going to care and are just buying it COZ ITS BLURAY!!!
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
PostPosted: 25 Sep 2016, 11:48 
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Kind of funny that you think Laserdisc was "treated with respect" by the studios. Every engineer were fully aware of all the limitations and most masters were butchered with plenty of EE and DNR.

I also don't think you realize just how much effort is put down to a master when it comes to a major Hollywood studio. The initial master for a feature (an IP for film and DI for digital) has gone through such careful work to "get it right" and when the master is done, it will then be remastered to other mediums. Of all that has ever been available, Ultra-HD Blu-Ray and Blu-Ray are for nearly every feature by far the least troublesome to make good of. Even a kid from the third year of primary school would probably make an acceptable result if the right tools were available, but mastering a Laserdisc takes many years of experience to do unless you want it to look like crap and even then it will be nowhere near as good as even a DVD. And even then the master itself has been very butchered compared to the IP or DI.
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PostPosted: 25 Sep 2016, 14:06 
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Ok, I just wanted to clarify that the Moontrap BD was by no means mastered from a "VHS tape". It wasn't my intention to trigger a format or master discussion in any way.
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