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laserbite34
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Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?  Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 20:52 |
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nissling wrote: The current master for Moontrap is clearly superior to a VHS but is still extremely soft. DNR is very heavy and makes textures pretty much non-existent. The US Blu-Ray has fake grain added while the German BD is the initial, scrubbed mess. I been noticing this fake bluray grain on Earthquake. Talk about a snake oil bluray format. 
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mr_eddy
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Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?  Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 21:18 |
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I recently bought some box sets I always wanted. I'm still looking for some criterions, but my laserdisc collection is close to being complete after buying those: 
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samaron
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Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?  Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 21:51 |
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nissling wrote: ... The US Blu-Ray has fake grain added... What......???????? That's just stupid to do. 
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nissling
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Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?  Posted: 25 Sep 2016, 23:00 |
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Yep, as funny as it seems that's what they did. http://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0& ... 60&i=7&l=0The grain structure is completely out of place and way too noisy to be authentic (especially in blacks). Plus it gives no extra detail to the image. You can add grain as a visual effect to get a more old school look but this is certainly not the right film to do so.
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forper
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Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?  Posted: 26 Sep 2016, 07:36 |
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nissling wrote: mastering a Laserdisc takes many years of experience to do And there you have my point. Good people who knew what they were doing worked on laserdisc releases. Idiots who ARE probably just out of school mastered attrocities like Predator on BD.
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audioboyz1973
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Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?  Posted: 26 Sep 2016, 09:03 |
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It won't be too much longer before we're hearing about how much better LD is than UHD-BD. If you want to have a discussion about poor or declined mastering standards please do so but put that in its proper context - criticise the mastering, not whatever format it happens to end up on. Any capitulation to 'mass-market cynical corporate milking' would have begun with DVD in any case, and just continued with newer formats.
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nissling
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Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?  Posted: 26 Sep 2016, 10:30 |
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forper wrote: And there you have my point.
Good people who knew what they were doing worked on laserdisc releases. It's the opposite actually. The reason it's so difficult to do a proper master for Laserdisc is because of its limitations and how bad it actually is as a medium compared to a 35mm IP or a DI. Those engineers were fully aware of how much they butchered all those films.
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alien
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Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?  Posted: 26 Sep 2016, 10:43 |
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forper wrote: alien wrote: forper wrote: It's the mass market dumbing down of everything. LD was an elite format in it's day for enthusiasts and the well off, studios mostly put out serious releases that were worthy. Now you can get BDs for next to nothing and every idiot thinks it's automatically going to the be the best option COZ IT'S BLURAY. Then people with knowledge and enthusiasm for movies, LDs original target market, get frustrated.. LD was the best format of its day once upon a time, and even years after DVD came out it was still better in terms of audio, but it's not anymore and thats ok because technology is always getting better and thats how it should be. if you don't subscribe to Blu-Ray being superior when a transfer is treated with care than you are just letting your own nostalgia and ignorance get the better of what are hard cold facts. You're missing my point. Studios treated the LD format with respect and put out considered, well mastered releases on the whole, it was a serious format treated seriously in an era where consumers weren't idiots. BD exists in an era where quality isn't valued. It's all about volume and studios blag out releases without properly mastering or respecting the films on the whole. And the worst part is the mass market falls for it and laps it up. The studios aren't idiots, they've just discovered people are. Why spend the money on mastering a proper release if 99% of people who buy it aren't going to care and are just buying it COZ ITS BLURAY!!! If any format was optimized for home viewing because of all the limitations and how difficult the said format was to master for it was Laserdisc, that in turn goes some way to explaining why LD took so long to master for. The end transfer would look very little like the film that was originally shot in a lot of technical areas. A well mastered BD or UHD BD is far, far, far closer to the desired accurate result because of the specs. with that said BD has many bad transfers too, but don't kid yourself, so does LD.
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forper
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Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?  Posted: 09 Oct 2016, 11:36 |
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johan184 wrote: kris wrote: johan184 wrote: in Hachioji I found very few titles, one with oasis and one with bowie, dont think nI bought any movies. But I do remember that they had a couple of 100s of lds at the counter that they was going to put out later, maybe thats were you got yours ? or did you bother to check in the bins where they put half the lds backwards, with no obis and bad condition ?
If was so much better before they reconstructed the layout of the store.
Interesting. I was at the store about 9 months before your post and I got a bunch of anime from boxes of unpriced titles (Y100 a piece) that were just dumped onto a large floor area, probably 1000s of discs in a ten square meter area. Then the graded/sorted stuff at the back of the store. on shelves and in filing bins.
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forper
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Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?  Posted: 12 Oct 2016, 23:59 |
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confederate wrote: Nice cover, kingpin !
I got the HK LD of Prison of Fire, a really good Hong Kong movie, as well as a very nice Hong Kong music LD called "Faye Wong in Concert". She is quite good.
Nice! Check City on Fire next, it was the basis for Reservoir Dogs. Tarantino just hoped no one would ever see it I think, I remember watching it in the late 90s and being pretty dissapointed that RD wasn't original. You can catch Faye Wong in the Hong Kong masterpiece Chun King Express. Love her music too.
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godzilla-2000
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Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?  Posted: 13 Oct 2016, 07:15 |
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confederate wrote: I also got five very rare Indonesian movies on LD I had never seen before anywhere else Lucky you! I'd love to find some old Indonesian horror/fantasy films on LD. Apparently there were quite many releases on both laserdisc and betamax.
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