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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
PostPosted: 25 Aug 2019, 08:32 
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pokefraker wrote:
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"elephant condoms", those plastic slip covers that always come with Japanese LDs


What brand/type would you recommend? I have some cheep ones but they don't work with anything that has more than 1 disc.

Elephant condoms are the ones that go inside the sleeve, on the disc itself. You're thinking of the baggies that go on top of the sleeve.
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Yeah we're talking about different things here...


For what you call EC can't you use LP inner sleeves too?
I'll test this myself after dinner, I'll have to dig out some LP's.
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
PostPosted: 25 Aug 2019, 13:19 
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Gabbed my cracked disc 1 from Never Say Never Again and pulled the inner sleeve from a Jeff Beck LP I have.
LD fits inside the LP inner sleeve no problems.

So I'd look for LP inner sleeves if you can get them new, although I can't see anything wrong with used ones myself if they're clean.
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deadlegion wrote:
Yeah we're talking about different things here...


For what you call EC can't you use LP inner sleeves too?
I'll test this myself after dinner, I'll have to dig out some LP's.

LaserDisc Vault had some generic LP sleeves that I used though I hope I still have the rest of mine but its in storage and I can't check.
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
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deadlegion wrote:
Gabbed my cracked disc 1 from Never Say Never Again and pulled the inner sleeve from a Jeff Beck LP I have.
LD fits inside the LP inner sleeve no problems.

So I'd look for LP inner sleeves if you can get them new, although I can't see anything wrong with used ones myself if they're clean.


Obviously. Japanese LPs usually come in the same sort of “EC” as LDs do. Before they were poly they were a kind of rice paper but you have to go back to like the 1950s to see that. Bags Unlimited sells round bottom “ECs” and they work but they aren’t same same. The material is thicker and the seem is wider making the overall size slightly larger.

Paper sleeves are somehow still the standard in the west. They deteriorate and fill the grooves with paper detritus before you even play the thing. It’s amazing that sometimes you even get “audiophile” releases like that which completely deflate any high end cred the manufacturer may have misapplied to themselves. Total record maniax clean their records, oftentimes before each playing, so they really don’t like it when you make the sleeve out of something that you know plugs up the grooves with pulp every single time.

New old stock records from Japan sound better when opened than ones from the west. The most recent example of this for me was a copy of the Really Rosie OST which has tons of pops and clicks despite the fact that nobody has ever played it and it hasn’t seen dust since being stamped in 1975. My brush turned up quite a bit of white residue before it was ever spun because this record has had paper being smooshed into it for 45 years.


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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
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Looked at another plastic LP inner sleeve, Bon Jovi Slippery When Wet 1986 issue, the sleeve is a good fit for LD.

None of my LD's are missing those inner sleeves so I don't need spares atm, but I might grab some from work now just in case. I'm collecting double LP outer sleeves anyway :lol:

Source is usually classic double LP, 99.9% of them aren't worth selling so they get binned when they come in (nearly always boxed up from the Melbourne warehouse).


I should have an LD box set coming in the next week, what the hell am I going to use as an outer sleeve for that? :crazy:
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
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signofzeta wrote:
Paper sleeves are somehow still the standard in the west. They deteriorate and fill the grooves with paper detritus before you even play the thing.

We're talking about records here, but that's obviously not an issue with laserdisc. I do still want to know why ECs would be preferrable to the plastic-lined baggies I see on US releases as far as LD is concerned. (also how the hell do you slide them into the sleeve sideways?)
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
PostPosted: 25 Aug 2019, 21:26 
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ECs are way better than other bags for LDs. The US poly lined paper ones split on the sides. Straight paper is too abrasive.

Americans think ECs suck because most of the time when you purchase an American LD the bag is already mangled and shoved into the sleeve at the factory and difficult to ever get flat again. If they aren’t pre-destroyed or if you change them out for new ones it’s not even slightly difficult for the experienced handler of LP/LD to get them in and out without issue. Japanese LDs still occasionally have mangled bags but it’s maybe 1/20 as common.

I’m not sure what “sideways” is. If the outer sleeve’s opening is to the right then the EC’s opening should be at the top with the outer plastic bag (if being used) at the top as well.
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
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signofzeta wrote:
I’m not sure what “sideways” is. If the outer sleeve’s opening is to the right then the EC’s opening should be at the top with the outer plastic bag (if being used) at the top as well.

That's what I meant.

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Ewoks: The Battle for Endor (1985) [G78F5575]
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True Lies (1994) [PCLH-00001]
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Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back: Special Edition (1997) [PILF-2469]
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Star Trek I: The Motion Picture (1979) (Uncut) [SF057-1618]
True Lies (1994) [8640-85]
Judge Dredd (1995) [PILF-7338]
Allan Quatermain and the Lost City of Gold (1986) [SF078-5501]
Planet of the Apes: The Complete Collection (Uncut) [PILF-2069]
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
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Planet of apes complete collection is fantastic. Will never let my mint copy go
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 Post subject: Re: What was the last laserdisc you bought?
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Cool Deadlegion, did any of those come from Mark in SA?
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Cool Deadlegion, did any of those come from Mark in SA?


All of them. I don't have any other source with reasonable prices atm.
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I'm doing a Laserdisc trade probably. Pretty cool. With a guy that owns a used media shop in upstate NY that I've done a lot of business with. He acquired someone's collection that's for sure. Priced out common stuff super cheap too. He had 8 titles I wanted. But he wants TMNT 1-3 for the shop to have the movies running at times and display the cardboard sleeves as art. So probably just a straight up trade here but I am waiting to hear back.
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I'm doing a Laserdisc trade probably. Pretty cool. With a guy that owns a used media shop in upstate NY that I've done a lot of business with. He acquired someone's collection that's for sure. Priced out common stuff super cheap too. He had 8 titles I wanted. But he wants TMNT 1-3 for the shop to have the movies running at times and display the cardboard sleeves as art. So probably just a straight up trade here but I am waiting to hear back.


:( Wish there was something I could trade, I need to get two R1 DVD sets that are proving difficult to find here atm. I could import myself but used is always very risky from NA. I can't find one seller with both sets (so postage can be combined) anyway.
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I'm doing a Laserdisc trade probably. Pretty cool. With a guy that owns a used media shop in upstate NY that I've done a lot of business with. He acquired someone's collection that's for sure. Priced out common stuff super cheap too. He had 8 titles I wanted. But he wants TMNT 1-3 for the shop to have the movies running at times and display the cardboard sleeves as art. So probably just a straight up trade here but I am waiting to hear back.


:( Wish there was something I could trade, I need to get two R1 DVD sets that are proving difficult to find here atm. I could import myself but used is always very risky from NA. I can't find one seller with both sets (so postage can be combined) anyway.


I'd be willing to help of course.
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8-) ^I love both of those movies so much.

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Cool Deadlegion, did any of those come from Mark in SA?


All of them. I don't have any other source with reasonable prices atm.


Nice job snagging that POTA box set, I missed it. Despite wanting to I'd never seen any Ape movies until 5 years ago when I got the original film on LD. Blew me away how good it was, I mean just how good the crashed space ship in the lake looks is worth the price of admission. I have to get the others one day.

Also nice job on the PILF-2469 Star Wars. I'm sure I checked all his Star Wars listings and didn't see that one listed.
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PILF-2469 the cover isn't in the best condition. Someone has tried to remove a price sticker at some point and the top edge the glue has separated. Also general wear and a few bits of tape added to the opening...I guess when that was done the top was being used to slide the contents in.

Besides all that it's ok though, I don't mind actually as I just got it pad out my order some more. I have various DVD and BD versions anyway.

Apes box set is fairly pristine :D
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The guy I bought my last batch from would've had the really old pan & scan release of Star Wars (FY570-35MA) as well. Wasn't all that interested in it so I didn't bid, but considering it went for measly five bucks, I kinda wish I had.
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