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Post subject: Japanese SAMPLE/SAMPLER releases  Posted: 03 Oct 2019, 05:32 |
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Hello everyone! For the longest time I believed that "Sample" copies with the sticker on the cover were simply normal production batches that were picked up randomly, got a sticker, and were shipped around as test/preview. But I found out that I was a little wrong about it. They put a little more efforts in making sample (pre?) production batches because the disc labels ALSO indicate that the copy was a sampler. It sometimes comes as an additional sticker on the label itself (見本盤) but most of the time the label is printed with these additional Kanjis. That means they really made a separate batch of sampling copies before starting the real production batch. Example: Attachment:
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Post subject: Re: Japanese SAMPLE/SAMPLER releases  Posted: 03 Oct 2019, 14:52 |
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rein-o wrote: I knew it, I always thought that samples were special like pre releases or something. Sad that they never caught on as a collectible, in other fields people collect samples and prototypes but not so much in LDs. I have a few (mostly F1 LDs) with SAMPLE stickers & would go for the sample one if more than one copy was for sale particularly if the sample one was sealed. Time to look through them again as I would never have spotted the difference. Cheers
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Post subject: Re: Japanese SAMPLE/SAMPLER releases  Posted: 03 Oct 2019, 16:52 |
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I just checked my copy of Nijiotoko (The Rainbow Man) (1949) [PILD-7066] and the label is indeed one made with the sample goods mark. So technically these are real promos then, I guess, although not very exciting ones. It’s nice for us that they are regular releases otherwise with all the regular inserts and a nice sleeve.
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Post subject: Re: Japanese SAMPLE/SAMPLER releases  Posted: 03 Oct 2019, 19:26 |
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rein-o wrote: je280 Just want to make sure you see as it took me a few minutes to see. That block of Kanji after Laserdisc on the top.
I'm sure all the samples have that.
Also wanted to post this for others as its not easy to notice that block of Kanji for non Japanese readers. Yeh got that thanks rein-o  . Cheers
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Post subject: Re: Japanese SAMPLE/SAMPLER releases  Posted: 04 Oct 2019, 03:35 |
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rein-o wrote: Sad that they never caught on as a collectible, in other fields people collect samples and prototypes but not so much in LDs. I believe they would be QUITE collectible if the production batch never made it past the Samplers and was not green lighted for mass production. But I doubt it happened, or it would just be the usual white/generic sleeve with something written on the label for test discs. I can understand now why they chose to use a non-removable sticker on the cover: 1/ To not print a different cover, just a different label on the disc 2/ To make sure the sticker can't be removed and pass as a regular copy (samplers are not for sale... initially!) I believe the Samplers were not sold in a sealed plastic wrap but include obi or not (I have samplers with obi). With: TOEI TV Tokusatsu Shudaika Daizenshu (Anime Theme Song Collection): vol.1 [LSTD01268]Without: Berlin: Wam Bam, Live in Japan (1987) [SM058-3170]Someone on Discogs went to the trouble to list separately standard and promo releases: Standard: https://www.discogs.com/The-Cure-The-Cure-In-Orange/release/10098548Promo: https://www.discogs.com/The-Cure-The-Cure-In-Orange/release/11541680Being the completist that I am, should we consider to add a " Sampler copies known to exist" for LDs? Just a "yes" checkbox if you do happen to own one. Julien
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Post subject: Re: Japanese SAMPLE/SAMPLER releases  Posted: 20 Nov 2019, 13:51 |
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I guess it doesn't work ALL THE TIME! Attachment:
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Post subject: Re: Japanese SAMPLE/SAMPLER releases  Posted: 21 Nov 2019, 02:50 |
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admin wrote: I guess it doesn't work ALL THE TIME! Attachment: ALLB-20.jpg Julien I was hoping to get back to this before now but between one thing & another..... Still got a few LDs to get to but so far there do appear to be quite a few variants of the Japanese LD SAMPLE thing, printed labels, stickers, ink stamps with different manufacturers using different methods though some of them look to have used various types. Will get round to taking the pictures of them & forward them on. Cheers for now.
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Post subject: Re: Japanese SAMPLE/SAMPLER releases  Posted: 22 Nov 2019, 00:32 |
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audioboyz1973 wrote: Can we be sure these are actually part of a separate sample (or 'final test') run (ie: some form of mint marking on the disc itself) or the initial pressings off the production run that had 'sample' stickers applied to the packaging and disc to discourage resale of something likely given out free for promotional purposes? Any sample LDs that I have seen have the same mint & stamp run numbers as the "normal" (for want of a better word) issues on the LDs. .
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