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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc capture not as sharp as direct playback on TV. Posted: 29 Jan 2020, 23:06 |
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This isn’t surprising. Capture devices are essentially TVs in themselves so they produce a different image than your actual TV. I have two Bravias that beat the pants of any capture device I’ve used. I’m speaking of a 2017 4K one and a 2004 HDCRT. Sony puts better video processing devices in their TV than you get from gamer-grade doodads. If you want to reproduce Sony’s specific brand of processing you could perhaps run everything through one of their Blu-ray recorders.
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signofzeta
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc capture not as sharp as direct playback on TV. Posted: 30 Jan 2020, 04:30 |
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substance wrote: https://forum.lddb.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=5725 How handy! Seems like it would be less than ideal for LD.
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tasuke
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc capture not as sharp as direct playback on TV. Posted: 30 Jan 2020, 15:46 |
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signofzeta wrote: I have two Bravias that beat the pants of any capture device I’ve used. I’m speaking of a 2017 4K one and a 2004 HDCRT. Sony puts better video processing devices in their TV than you get from gamer-grade doodads. that's what i was afraid of. my 2011 BEST BUY INSIGNIA 46" LCD has some killer analog upscaling electronics onboard, and i sweat bullets in anticipation of the day it croaks, as i've no idea where i might find an external upscaler that is as good or better...
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phoenixobia
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc capture not as sharp as direct playback on TV. Posted: 30 Jan 2020, 20:41 |
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signofzeta wrote: This isn’t surprising. Capture devices are essentially TVs in themselves so they produce a different image than your actual TV. I have two Bravias that beat the pants of any capture device I’ve used. I’m speaking of a 2017 4K one and a 2004 HDCRT. Sony puts better video processing devices in their TV than you get from gamer-grade doodads. If you want to reproduce Sony’s specific brand of processing you could perhaps run everything through one of their Blu-ray recorders. That actually makes sense. My TV is also a 4K Bravia. Though I need to test it to be sure, as I am concerned about deinterlacing. I need my captures to be interlaced so I can decide how I want it deinterlaced (IVTC, 30i to 60p, etc) depending on the source. Wondering if anyone knows about the interlacing process on the recorders, if any at all. Since I've already bought my capture device, I am looking into the option of using an Upscaler to convert the analog signals to HDMI, and feed the HDMI into the capture device. I've ordered a KanexPro RCA/S-Video To 4K HDMI Converter. Will test once I have it. Thanks!
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deadlegion
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Post subject: Re: Laserdisc capture not as sharp as direct playback on TV. Posted: 31 Jan 2020, 20:56 |
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phoenixobia wrote: So I tested the Upscaler I got (KanexPro RCA/S-Video To 4K HDMI Converter) to convert my analog video to HDMI and send it to the Blackmagic Intensity Shuttle for capture.
I am shocked at how terrible the picture is. The brightness is too much that the picture is burnt, the color is so pale, picture is a stretched 16:9, and more importantly it deinterlaces the video badly and you can't get interlaced output to work on later, it only adds some digital noise reduction and sharpness that makes the picture look unnatural. You can't even adjust the color or lighting. I have a feeling a BluRay/DVD recorder would also deinterlace.
I prefer the direct capture I get from the analog connection.
Does anyone know if the recorders deinterlace or not? I am not sure if trying another Upscaler is any different.
Thanks Pretty sure both high definition DVD recorders I have can be set to output 1080i over hdmi. Probably not what you're asking though
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